Michael13
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Post by Michael13 on Mar 2, 2005 23:58:06 GMT -5
Christ was the pure expression of God in flesh.
Isn't that 'Truth'?
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Michael13
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"The real search for all people is for God."
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Post by Michael13 on Mar 3, 2005 0:01:16 GMT -5
Whether silent or not, Jesus was about letting others find their own truth.
Don't you think it is impossible to fully share your expression of 'Truth'?
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Post by Dwayne on Mar 3, 2005 0:04:11 GMT -5
Michael says: "Whether silent or not, Jesus was about letting others find their own truth. Don't you think it is impossible to fully share your expression of 'Truth'? "Yes, Michael. My whole point precisely & efficiently, thanks so much. ~Dwayne~
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Post by Just a Friend on Mar 3, 2005 7:59:54 GMT -5
If you look at the passage of John 18:38, Pilate asked Yeshua the question and imminently departed. It seems rhetorical as it simply questioned the notion of truth. The main issue was whether Yeshua was prepared to call Himself the King of the Jews, as the jews deemed this to be blasphemous. Yeshua did attest to the fact that He was indeed the King of the Jews and this prompted the accusations (during which he remained silent).
Now, what Pilate wanted Him to do was to respond to the accusations being levied at Him, which were recorded in Mark 15:3. It is however noted that He did not respond.
If Yeshua remained silent after He was asked that question, it would have been noted as in Mark 15:5 or Matthew 27:14. The Bible clearly notes that he was also silent in the presence of Herod, which is why I believe that Pilate's question did not demand an answer. As soon as Pilate asked the question, he went out to inform the jews that he had not found any fault in Yeshua.
Pilate was not prepared to charge Yeshua because it seems as though he perceived the allegations as being frivolous. This is due to the fact that he did not subscribe to Judaic mode of belief, which brings us back to his question. That question highlights his indifference to 'truth' as he proceeded to question the notion of truth itself.
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Post by Just a Friend on Mar 3, 2005 8:05:19 GMT -5
Don't you think it is impossible to fully share your expression of 'Truth'?
I do not disagree with this sentiment. However, one should be allowed to freely express his/her notion of truth. It is then up to others to take it on board or discard it.
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Post by Dwayne on Mar 3, 2005 9:41:15 GMT -5
JAF goes on: "Pilate was not prepared to charge Yeshua because it seems as though he perceived the allegations as being frivolous. This is due to the fact that he did not subscribe to Judaic mode of belief, which brings us back to his question. That question highlights his indifference to 'truth' as he proceeded to question the notion of truth itself."An interpretation based on belief, not fact. The truth told through love is: [shadow=Teal,left,300]Neither one of us know[/shadow] Believe intensely & sincerely: yes ; Know: no. [shadow=orange,left,300]Whatever we believe will never change truth[/shadow]Got a name, JAF, to share with us ... or does The Spirit have you hide? "There is nothing hidden that will not be revealed. Nothing whispered in closets that will not be shouted from the rooftops."Is there fear here in you, perchance, friend? Thanks ... ~Dwayne~
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Post by Edina on Mar 3, 2005 15:06:16 GMT -5
I have him hidden, as he is MY dear friend. Invited him to join in and share his great wisdom and knowledge of the Bible to generate more discussion as I knew he would have a lot to say on this subject. I like to learn from him AND through him. It's also interesting to see what YOU have to say Dwayne. Learning is what matters! As for him registering and becoming a member, he doesn't have to, if he doesn't want to. Let's just mutually agree on that. Mmmokay?
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Post by Dwayne on Mar 3, 2005 20:10:47 GMT -5
Agreed. Welcome, Just A Friend. ~Dwayne~
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Post by Edina on Mar 3, 2005 22:52:34 GMT -5
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Post by Dwayne on Mar 4, 2005 19:24:42 GMT -5
In reengaging, lightning bolt becomes little brook ...Yeshua is the respected proper name of the person most know as Jesus & is a name frequently used by Messianic Jews. Different schools of thought on the subject follow (links): www.messianic.com/articles/yeshua.htm www.evangelicaloutreach.org/yeshua.htm JaF, hope that you will continue the discussion with us here. Your contributions to this thread are interesting & helping to get one's noodle firing on all thrusters. Thanks for sharing. ~Dwayne~
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Post by lizanne333 on Mar 5, 2005 13:57:16 GMT -5
Hello, JAF, Edina,
Am doing some serious thinking here, in fact ran my teapot out of water on the stove, Oh, Oh!
Will be coming up with some thoughts to help separate out the nature of belief and how that works within our minds, and the TRUTH, which is ETERNAL, and NO, not ever expanding, but ever REVEALING to those individuals-within those individuals, and unique only to that individual, based upon their CURRENT understanding of that which they have already incorporated into their being-at the time which they currently look for new REVEAL+ATION.
Will take some time, possibly will come forward as I review current communications, as well as past.
I need to become clear myself, so as not to get caught in the web of conflicting systems.
Sincerely, truly, Lizanne
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Post by Just a Friend on Mar 5, 2005 15:53:30 GMT -5
Thanks Dwayne et al.
I appreciate your kind words.
YHWH Bless you in the name of our Lord Yeshua
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Post by Dwayne on Mar 6, 2005 16:14:05 GMT -5
Just A Friend prays: "YHWH Bless you in the name of our Lord Yeshua"And also you. ~Dwayne~
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