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Post by Edina on Feb 25, 2005 16:07:58 GMT -5
I see that you're having fun with it.
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Post by Dwayne on Feb 25, 2005 17:06:14 GMT -5
What was that?
~Dwayne~
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Post by Edina on Feb 25, 2005 17:07:11 GMT -5
What was what?
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Post by Dwayne on Feb 25, 2005 17:10:36 GMT -5
[glow=Orange,2,300]Having fun with it. Suppose it would have helped to use quotes, eh? It would have been clearer had it all been on the same page.[/glow] ~Dwayne~
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Post by Edina on Feb 25, 2005 17:24:41 GMT -5
I suppose.
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Post by lizanne333 on Feb 27, 2005 13:00:19 GMT -5
Hello Again,
Been feeling under the weather here for a few days, but this time has given me the opportunity to throw myself into [glow=red,2,300][/glow] Ervin Laszlo's book "Science and the Akashic Field" From what I am understanding at this point in time; (which of course may change as I read further, or as the self that I am changes, bringing a different perspective to the table) is that every particle in the universe has at one point in time/space experienced the same state; i.e. "the singularity of the "Big Bang". Moving forward in the expansion of Space/Time, all particles continue to communicate with each other notwithstanding distance or time. How is it that these particles instantaneously communicate with each other, given that it would require this communication to exceed the speed of light ? If I am understanding correctly, the empty space that we call a vacuum is not empty atal but is filled with a super-dense/super-fluid vacuum, upon which movement of particles interfere, leaving the imprint of their movement in the field itself. More than that, as with a ship cutting through a field of water leaving its' wake or wave behind; within that wake contains all information about the size of the ship, time of passage, etc. That wave information would continue throughout eternity were it not for the shoreline or other obstruction of matters' interference. This non-observable field, referred as non-local, permeates everything, and everything, including thought interacts with it instantaneously, recording, contributing more information to the field itself. Since the field, as with any system, continues to communicate with itself instantaneously- its' current condition, so does this non-local field communicate information to itself throughout the universe, (as it is everywhere) information about all matter that has interacted with it, instantaneously! (quite a run-on sentence!)
This field in the 19th century was referred to as the "etheric field", since abandoned, is now referred to as the A-field, after the Akashic Records Field referred to by Indian religion/philosophy.
It gets even more interesting, and you really must do your own reading as I am skipping steps here, but Mr. Laszlow's theory is suggesting that there have been numerous universes from bang to crunch within the same space, the record of which is recorded in this pre-existing, eternally existent A-Field. As a matter of fact, he suggests that this A-Field communicates instantaneously with the same field within other universes (metaverse), and the information thereof is accessible via our minds, encapsulated within our physical beings, as we are connected to this record as is every other thing in the universe!
Implications, staggering!
Hmmmmm
Sooooo, for you and I, well as I currently understand it, as I suspected, all information that you could ever conceive of, questions that you can formulate-stringing with ones you hadn't even considered are answered right inside of you and me. So, let's take a look!
Interested in any comments and/or ponderings of your own!
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Post by Edina on Feb 27, 2005 16:14:22 GMT -5
Lizanne, I'm glad you brought Mr. Laszlo's name up. Although I feel ashamed for not knowing about him, since his extraordinary achievements in science&economics seems to be well-known. Just did a little research on him, and it would be a lot of catching up to do, if I decided to "buy into" his theories (literally) as he's written over 70 books. Would take me a lifetime! I hate to stereotype, but it is generally a weakness of our culture: we--Hungarians--like to overcomplicate EVERYTHING, especially when appreciation gets to the ego. Judging by what I've read so far, how this man writes, and what you presented, could be said in a couple of sentences. Everything is ONE. We are in ONE. Therefore, we are all interconnected, as we are ONE. And we can go on and about energy, time and space yadadadada.... Too much talk and apparently this lifetime we are given here is too short. Nevertheless, it's a fascinating subject and when I feel like getting into the details will do, and will probably read some of his books in the future. Thank you again for bringing his theories and philosophies to the forum.
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Post by Dwayne on Feb 28, 2005 11:26:41 GMT -5
Am also pleased that you brought this up, Lizanne. Have been reading up on the " Akashic Field" & am finding the information fascinatingly similar to many traditional aboriginal people's thinking. Thanks ... will read more. ~Dwayne~
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Post by Bluebird on Mar 1, 2005 15:41:04 GMT -5
Hi Lizanne, I know nothing about Laszlow's thinking and books, but I find what you write mighty interesting! The matter you describe is called dark matter by physicists. It's been discovered only recently, because physical calculations did not come out well if you look at gravitation of particles in a vacuum. Something was interfering gravitation, and it had to be a kind of matter in the vacuum. So the old, out-laughed theories of "ether" were right after all! I see a connection between the "cosmic memory" of particles as you described it, and with the superstring theory. According to the superstring theory all sub-subatomic particles are made of a kind of energy string that vibrates. The vibration defines the energy of the particle, and together with other subatomic particles it creates an atom. Thus, materia is not static, but ever-changing and sensitive to movements. Suppose these strings began vibrating at big bang. They would still bear the memory of it all, and it would still be affecting them. Einstein's theory of general relativity contains the possibility of multiple universes. The way most scientists see it today seems to be a kind of "budding" of universes: like a big universe giving birth to a separating bud of a baby universe, which then expands, as well. Why see this in a simple- 4-dimensional way? I'm sure the universes can be within each other just like you say Laszlow claims it is - different dimensions are created by strings vibrating at different speeds. Like a radio where you can only tune in one station at a time. *edit: wow, I became a senior member
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Post by Just a Friend on Mar 2, 2005 9:43:18 GMT -5
Did not Jesus say "The truth will set you free?" Am seeing no freedom in your truths, "Just a friend". Yes, Jesus did say that. What is Truth and who is the Truth? If you look at John 14:6, Jesus did tell us what/who this Truth really is. Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.I am not here to imprison your minds or to force you to take on board my mode of thought. I was asked by a good friend to speak my mind on a subject that directly relates to my faith. Peace and Love was the message of my Lord. Jesus wants those who follow Him to do the same. I am sorry if I came across as forceful, it was not my intention. I also have no intention of joining this board, but just wanted to make a one-off statement. However, since it caused some misunderstanding, I felt obliged to clarify my original post. The beauty in Love is free-will. If you choose to devote your life to someone, it should be because you want to rather than feeling the need to. Thanks for taking time to read this YHWH bless you all in the name of our Lord Yeshua the Messiah Shalom
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Post by Dwayne on Mar 2, 2005 12:26:43 GMT -5
"Just A Friend" returns:
"What is Truth and who is the Truth? If you look at John 14:6, Jesus did tell us what/who this Truth really is."
When Jesus was before Pontius Pilate after a prior night of being arrested illegally, tried illegally, suffering unspeakable crimes during such & being, by that time, "unrecognizable" from being beaten & tortured so horribly before his execution, he & the Roman were discussing things freely back & forth as Pontius was looking for a way out of ordering Jesus' "death" ... until Pontius asked him "What is truth?" Jesus' answer is fascinating ... He did not answer him, going silent at that point. Please think about that.
"Just A Friend" said over 2 months ago in this thread:
"This is my first and final post. "
Am pleased that this was not laid in concrete. Hope you may reconsider joining this forum in openness & light.
Thanks ...
~Dwayne~
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Post by Just a Friend on Mar 2, 2005 14:33:37 GMT -5
Well, that was meant to be my first and final post but I will answer your questions as the Holy Spirit leads.
I can see you are referring to John 18:38. This is a very common passage. There was nothing there about Yeshua being silent. In fact, it looks more like a rhetorical question.
John 18:37 reads:
Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.
Verse 38:
Pilate saith unto him, What is truth? And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, , and saith unto them, I find in him no fault [at all].
That seems like a rhetorical question, as he was not demanding an answer but merely questioning the notion of truth itself. As soon as he asked it, he went out to the masses.
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Post by Dwayne on Mar 2, 2005 15:16:57 GMT -5
[shadow=orange,left,300]Interesting[/shadow] In looking at a more complete picture, in Mark, Matthew & Luke along with John, am seeing the Roman governor's question as most sincere. Jesus, as it is recorded, remained silent even afterwards with Herod, who had desired to speak with Jesus for some time. The Spirit speaks in hearts, yes. Always follow that still, small voice. Am continuing to hope that you may be led to join this forum in a spirit of openness as well as truth expressed through love. Thanks ... ~Dwayne~
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Post by Just a Friend on Mar 2, 2005 16:49:20 GMT -5
Jesus was silent when he was accused by the elders and priests, not when Pilate asked Him about "truth".
Matthew 27:11
And Jesus stood before the governor: and the governor asked him, saying, Art thou the King of the Jews? And Jesus said unto him, Thou sayest.
27:12 And when he was accused of the chief priests and elders, he answered nothing.
27:13 Then said Pilate unto him, Hearest thou not how many things they witness against thee?
27:14 And he answered him to never a word; insomuch that the governor marvelled greatly.
Mark 15:2
And Pilate asked him, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answering said unto him, Thou sayest [it].
15:3 And the chief priests accused him of many things: but he answered nothing.
15:4 And Pilate asked him again, saying, Answerest thou nothing? behold how many things they witness against thee.
15:5 But Jesus yet answered nothing; so that Pilate marvelled.
Luke 23:3
And Pilate asked him, saying, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answered him and said, Thou sayest [it].
23:4Then said Pilate to the chief priests and [to] the people, I find no fault in this man.
John 18:37
Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.
18:38 Pilate saith unto him, What is truth? And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them, I find in him no fault [at all].
As I said earlier, I think that Pilate's question concerning 'truth' was rhetorical. I have not found evidence in scriptures that supports your assertion of Yeshua remaining silent after that question by Pilate.
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Post by Dwayne on Mar 2, 2005 23:51:13 GMT -5
"Just A Friend",
You state that:
"Jesus was silent when he was accused by the elders and priests, not when Pilate asked Him about 'truth'."
Indeed, as recorded in the gospels & taken as a whole ... though then you go on to recite John 18:37 (& 38):
"Pilate therefore said to Him, 'So you are a king?' Jesus answered, 'You say correctly that I am a king. For this I have been born, and for this I have come into the world, to bear witness to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice.'
Pilate said to Him, 'What is truth?' And when he had said this, he went out again to the Jews, and said to them, 'I find no guilt in Him.' "
& the very next thing recorded that is spoken by Jesus is after the crowd calls for Barrrabbas' release instead ... after Jesus was again whipped with 39 lashes ... after Pilate put Him before the crowd again to reiterate, "... I find no guilt in Him." ... after Jesus continued His silence while the Jews reaccuse Him ... after Pilate once again attempted to coax Him into speaking in His own defense, He finally said:
"You would have no authority over Me, unless it had been given you from above; for this reason he who delivered Me up to you has the greater sin."
"Just A Friend": if Jesus had answered Pilate's question, "What is truth?" then isn't it reasonable that His answer would have been recorded? This is asked with deepest respect, my friend.
Thanks ...
~Dwayne~
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