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Post by traveller on Dec 4, 2002 2:08:30 GMT -5
hi im Atreyu, im new 2 this site.I think its gr8 that ppl take time out and make sites like these where fans of richard can share their veiws.iwas shocked 2 hear about richards divorce, but i guess he is following what he always said, about being true and happy 2 the only person that matters,.... ur self.All the same my sympathies go 2 his wife leslie who i feel had got a raw deal.
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Post by anirvan on Jun 10, 2003 13:48:21 GMT -5
you maybe right in saying abt richard being true to himself ... abt being true and happy to the only person who matters....himself. But the bridge he set out to traverse..frm being the barnstormer to the seeker...of unconditional love....the realisation of the inevitability of the unsatiating solitude of just his own company...Leslie was his answers...the destination of a quest...and so i believe was the converse. ...even after the absoluteness of being in love they can decide to walk their seperate ways then it is not for us to stand here and contemplate as to who got a raw deal and who treaded the right path...both leslie n richard are as complete and profound beings as any can be and it must have been for each others happiness tht they split ...btw...who knows maybe in some alternate universe they're just together...anybody remembers pye??
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Post by The Wild Card on Jul 4, 2003 19:02:31 GMT -5
howdi. Just one point I'd like to mention - in all of his books (not counting the hilarious Otters thing) Richard has always grown and shared his progress. From Barnstormer to seeker of a soulmate... Well who set his words in stone back in 'One'? Just because he's a celebrated published writer doth not a Jesus make! And praise to Richard for knocking himself off his pedastel and realising he had different future goals from the woman he married - rather trhan stay together in unhappiness they both had the strength to set each other free for lives more in tune with themselves and their paths. Well I take my hat off! My best mate has a serious problem with the divorce calling Richard a hypocrite. try as I might I just can't get him to hear when I say "You fell in love with him because he was true to himself. Now you judge him when he's being true."
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Post by SurfBoi on Jul 28, 2003 6:17:09 GMT -5
I agree with The Wild Card. Richard and his wife loved each other enough to let go. In no way is Richard Bach a hypocrite, he and his SoulMate simply moved on to the next phase of their lives, which just happened not to be together. There is a saying that my girlfriend taught me, "Love is in the Letting Go". So, all you people out there who hate Richard for the Divorce, let go your hatred and move on...
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Post by SfSeagull on Aug 25, 2003 20:52:57 GMT -5
"So, all you people out there who hate Richard for the Divorce, let go your hatred and move on... "
I don't hate Richard for THE divorce.
But I did lose respect and interest in him when he said on his former homepage that there were clues in ABAF that the relationship was doomed. I emailed him and asked if that were true why did he keep writing about it as if the relationship were forever??--I never did hear an answer.
then that site went down.
I think the state of his writing career now speaks volumes.
My guess is he was/is an average guy caught up in an ordinary mid-life crisis.
dime a dozen
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Post by peacenowar on Sept 5, 2003 5:13:45 GMT -5
Heya, i've only just discovered this list so, first of all a hello to everyone and second a Well Done! for getting together a site like this dedicated to real important things. SFSeagull; i couldn't agree more, when i heard about his divorce, like many people i thought "well, what was ABAF all about then?" But on second thoughts it makes me like his books even more. it shows he's another regular joe like us (messing up most of the time, having supercool satori very occasionally). I like the comment a little while back in the thread...."just because he's published some good books, doesn't make him Jesus" the depressing thing is we've got to be our own Jesus (or Buddha, or Mohatma, or Mohammed). I kinda dig someone more if they're a real person you know... Like Leslie Parish in the ABAF comes across as full of that Clear Light; beautiful - - - but also very real and humane, you know? peace & love,
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Post by Jeremy Birkbeck on Sept 6, 2003 16:02:23 GMT -5
Hi! I am new to this site and its great! I knew v little about Richard Bach the man but loved his early books. Have to say i am shocked and dissapointed to learn he left his family of 6! I know there are always 2 sides to every story but even so...
Anyway, my thesis is that all the books and so-called 'philosophy' that most people like RB for, are highly over-rated, and basically a bunch of tosh! Yes, i'm talking about Jonathon and pretty much all after it. What history should remember Mr Bach for is basically "A Gift of Wings" - and stories such as "Too Many Dumb Pilots" (probably my favourite), "Loops Voices and the Fear of Death", "Cat" etc etc etc. And "Biplane" and "Stranger to the Ground" were not far behind. To paraphrase Hemingway, an author should only write about what he knows. And for Mr Bach, that means flying. I guess, though, you probably have to be a pilot yourself to get the most of these books. Anyway, for me, these early stories were RB's greatest work. He should have left it at that!
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Post by Sunysmile on Sept 17, 2003 11:38:37 GMT -5
TEXT [glow=red,2,300]TEXT[/glow] TEXTI have in the past wondered about soul mates for the term seemed to be misused causing one to mis-focus *********************************** Looking for that special someone is like looking for one needle in the haystack you can have the whole stack *********************************************************** TEXT[glow=red,2,300]TEXT[/glow] TEXT
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valqk
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Glory of love.
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Post by valqk on Jan 6, 2004 14:50:08 GMT -5
I'm wrtiting to SfSeagull. You've got the Richard's email. I've been looking for it for quite a long time and just discovered this site. Can you please email it to my mail ot to my icq. Well... about his divorce... You can't know his reasons... The only person that can answer is HIM so....
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Post by harmonicaman on Feb 24, 2004 0:48:59 GMT -5
I think Ms. Parrish wanted to save the world and Mr. Bach didn't. Different life goals and all that...
harmonicaman
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Post by James Bach on Jan 6, 2005 2:21:55 GMT -5
I know the circumstances of the divorce. I am not going to share them with you. But it had nothing to do with disinterest, mid-life crisis, or compulsive self-indulgence. What is definitely not dime-a-dozen about Dad is that he absolutely LIVES by the principles he writes, to the best of his ability. He lives by rigorous ideals.
Remember: no one in love is going to right a book about being in love that makes the object of his love look flawed. The only thing you know about Leslie is probably what my father said about her. And all of those things were really really nice. They were not inaccurate, but neither were they the whole story. Just bear that in mind.
-- James
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Post by Dwayne on Jan 6, 2005 12:23:51 GMT -5
James,
This artist, for one, is pleased that you are here now. Your virtual voice is coming through clean & clear & am feeling honored to be privileged in participating in something wonderful going on through all of this. Am sensing much healing beginning to increase on many levels & it makes my heart warm. May you continue posting & speaking your heart as you are doing.
~Dwayne~
Nothing stronger than gentleness. Nothing so gentle as true strength
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Post by Bluebird on Jan 7, 2005 5:41:56 GMT -5
I've been following the questions, puzzlement and conversations about Richard's and Leslie's divorce for quite a while. Every time I read about it it makes me feel uneasy, even if I know most people genuinely DO care, and don't talk about it for the sake of gossip. Still I get the feeling, what if I had divorced, had to learn a lesson and be reminded of it for the rest of my life because I once stated something different? And have a crowd of fans around me that keep on analyzing the particulars of MY personal divorce for years?
I don't know how exactly Richard Bach himself has dealt with the situation, but he must be a very strong person, to be able to cope with his private life and come to a peace of mind with the voices of thousands of fans roaring outside, "Richard, we trusted in you, if what you say is not right we have no future!"
Okay, this is perhaps a bit exaggerated and I do not wish to upset anyone. Just... I'm sure he would appreciate a bit of discretion.
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Post by Dwayne on Jan 7, 2005 13:11:15 GMT -5
Bluebird shares:
"I don't know how exactly Richard Bach himself has dealt with the situation, but he must be a very strong person, to be able to cope with his private life and come to a peace of mind with the voices of thousands of fans roaring outside, "Richard, we trusted in you, if what you say is not right we have no future!" Just ... I'm sure he would appreciate a bit of discretion."
. . .
Your expressions are echoing in my heart as you say what this man (* that is to say: my self) has been unable to say thus far with in own words. Thank you.
Came across this expression long before this moment & it is fitting here now imo:
"Be kind ... for nearly everyone you meet, no matter how it may seem otherwise, is having a difficult time of it."[/b]
Please ... those who may still be hurt/angry/disappointed with Richard &/or Leslie:
When you are able to honestly thank them for contributing to your lives ... As you are able to forgive them of circumstances as well as forgive yourselves ... While you acknowledge Creator in your own unique way ... Be good to your selves. [/i]
Consider giving soft answers, "so gentle & so strong that a mere touch may shatter bone."
~Dwayne~
* Edit
last quote is from one of my sonnets
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Post by James Bach on Jan 7, 2005 13:38:41 GMT -5
I haven't read Bridge and One for a while, but I doubt that Richard *did* say anything significantly different.
The divorce came as a big surprise to me, when I found out. But the story surrounding it made perfect sense when I heard it, and did not in any way appear to contradict what was written in the books. Of course, I've been through a divorce myself, so it was pretty easy to understand in reference to personal experience.
-- James
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