relationship ideals

[Michael]

There seems to be much disagreement these days of what a relationship/marriage should be and sometimes more importantly what it is not.

I related to this article by Suzanne Rough so I thought I would share:

www.dkfoundation.co.uk/BookWillIEverMeetSomeone.htm

Michael

[Bluebird]

Interesting article. It reminds me much of Anthony Giddens' book "the transformation of intimacy". There he follows through a theory that romantic love (princess-knigh/prince) has changed to equality and intimacy in a relationship between two people, no matter the sex.

I also think that romantic love is a bit outdated: It never gives the woman all she wants and it requires settings that are almost impossible to get just so. But because I grew up with it as the only ideal of love, it's all I looked for. Luckily I found a man who understands me and thinks the same.

*edit: I want to believe in romantic love at least for a while, because we're currently planning our wedding.

Which brings me to a second point: could it not be possible that two people are in the same situation in life/lives? That a soulmate is someone who's perhaps learning some different things but essentially is in the same stage as you, so that you can support one another in your lessons? Does it have to be so that we all walk our individual journey with an individual order of lessons? Because that would basically mean that in the end we're all alone...

[Michael]

Hi Bluebird,

On the surface I think it can appear very tedious...the learning of lessons 'for ourselves' just to 'improve ourselves', by 'ourselves'.

From my perspective, I believe though, that as one progresses and raises ones consciousness 'lessons' or 'consciousness raising experiences' gradually expand the idea of who we are, our relationship with not just each other and ourselves, but the illusion of life itself, so eventually, what we will be aware of that we were never separated from each other.

At this stage the notion of soulmates would dissolve because for the idea of 'one soul somehow being closer to another one' implies there is a 'bigger distance' between us and all the others.
I don't want to put forward the idea that somehow all our close relationships are not 'real' in the sense of being 'special' . It is true that we are close to certain souls more than others and in sharing ourselves so makes life a beautiful experience, but what I am saying is that in our own 'expansion' through our lesson learning, this closeness of what we feel to certain souls will expand into something far bigger more encompassing and amazing relation to all souls and all life, without any loss of the former.

So ironically we are not all alone I would suggest but in the learning of the lessons eventually there will arise an awareness that there was never any separation between everyone but know that at the time we just believed there was, and in the power of our beliefs we created the appearance of it being so.

To one who has learned all the lessons the earthplane has to offer would very probably KNOW a sense of closeness or even ONENESS with all souls and life itself.

At this stage 'self' and 'other' dissolves into One almost like the NOW point as Eckhart Tolle wonderfully describes in his book 'The Power of Now'

I truly believe that in the 'between lives state' before we are born we are more aware of this 'Oneness', this 'non-separation', the incredible Love between our innate natures, that we challenge ourselves most vociferously when choosing what we desire to experience in incarnation. After all, with knowledge of our innate Oneness we perhaps find it easy to dive into an incarnation for three scores years and ten maximum to learn, with the knowledge we'll 'dive out' of that incarnation thereafter.

The trick is to arrive at that awareness of Oneness here, in this 'school of hard knocks', and rocket launch our evolution.

Michael

[Bluebird]

Michael, I agree with you. I think pretty much the same and my ponderings in my previous post were directed at the article you linked.

I think I mentioned somewhere in another thread about the theory of "spiritual classmates", a group of soulmates who all agree to help each other out in several lifetimes. I think in that case we have more than one soulmate, although the level of completeness between different combinations of people may vary. Right now I've found at least one I'm sure of - maybe several but the relationship between some may be clouded because negative emotions are needed to learn some things. Go figure...

So in the end we at least feel one with our own class of people, if not with the whole of the universe.

[Michael]

I agree with you on that one I'm sure we have a 'soul group' who we may/may not recognise when incarnating.

There is a book called 'Destiny of Souls' by Michael Newton that describes this well. The book is about Michael Newton's hypnotic regression sessions with many people where he regresses people not so much to past lives but to the 'between lives state' , where they describe their soul groups, lessons learned, difficulties while incarnating etc. Its very interesting .

Michael