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Post by ray on May 20, 2002 4:04:05 GMT -5
Its something everyone yearns for, when we are loaded with work. A recluse from day to day hassles.We yearn for solitude when we are lost and wanna find ourselves all over again.How long can we enjoy our solitude though? We get back and join the crowd again.What does that mean? We always need someone to feel good about ourselves? Do share your opinions. with thanks!!!!!!!!
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Post by milena on May 20, 2002 4:59:02 GMT -5
This one is a tough one for me...because I know that the only person who is responsible for my happiness is me and yet I want a relationship and this want often clouds my view of my life and my reason for being here and what I have learnt so far. I know I am me but I feel as if something is missing without a person to share all this with. I enjoy having solitude as long as there is someone in the next room.
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Post by ray on May 29, 2002 11:36:44 GMT -5
Yes I agree! The desire to be with someone is natural i guess! I guess when we are alone, we still have a companion and thats our thoughts and feelings ! Maybe life is all about this! I feel what we called solitude is actually intimacy with our thoughts!!!!!!
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Post by rokclmr on May 29, 2002 11:58:19 GMT -5
"We yearn for solitude when we are lost and wanna find ourselves all over again." Absolutely... I find I need it most when the world seems like it's spinning out of control, and I need to collect and re-center myself. "How long can we enjoy our solitude though?" Depends on the situation you find yourself in. I love being by myself, as it gives me plenty of time to reflect, but then, I feel I need to pick up the phone, or go out to meet some friends, and laugh. It's hard to crack jokes to yourself all the time. "the only person who is responsible for my happiness is me" Yep, but whose to say that the method to finding the complete and total all of your happiness is strictly within yourself? Maybe you can find a portion of your happiness when you reflect the joy of your happiness upon other people. (Like the ppl on this board? ) I find it hard to believe we were meant to be alone. Nature does not appear to have set things up that way. Rokclmr
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Post by milena on May 30, 2002 5:43:34 GMT -5
I agree nature seems to decree that we should be paired but if I am not at peace with myself how could I hope to find peace with a soulmate or a twin soul?
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Post by rokclmr on May 30, 2002 11:21:44 GMT -5
"but if I am not at peace with myself how could I hope to find peace with a soulmate or a twin soul? " When you say "peace", I'm getting a Zen-like calm, quiet, serious, eternal "OM" vibe from it. I'm not sure if that's what you mean.... but, who's to say that "peace" isn't sometimes more like a loud, boisterous, laughing, happy "WOO HOO!!!" feeling. Maybe, if you open the door/break down the walls and allow yourself to be drawn to your soulmate(s), your search for inner peace will be made easier, as you both will be sharing in a Journey, and reflecting the joy of that Journey back and forth on each other.
MHO, Rokclmr
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Post by ray on Jun 1, 2002 7:57:54 GMT -5
Hi milena and rokcmlr Have you read "road less travelled" by scottpeck? He says all are alone at some point in our spiritual journey and i guess all of us enjoy that coz that makes us feel we are unique:)
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Post by myopinion on Jun 3, 2002 6:41:15 GMT -5
"we" don't all yearn for solitude to find ourselves or feel lost - some of us get lost to get away and be alone to "hear ourselves think". No TV, radio, people. How long "we" need depends on us I suppose or maybe just until the room clears - (or the house). In my opinion there are people who need someone to validate their lives just as much as they need to stuff to validate their sucess or failure - like what they drive, wear, where they went to school - some people are very material - isn't it wonderful that we are all so different - yet in some ways the same - I am thinking about how solitude leads to thinking and for some reason I am thinking of the words Richard wrote about flying in the service and the enemy was so much like himself - that stuff about those siamese cats - He was alone in the sky at night - Solitude can lead to thinking and where that will take us ...
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Post by rokclmr on Jun 3, 2002 7:59:17 GMT -5
"[snip]...i guess all of us enjoy that coz that makes us feel we are unique" We are all individuals, and in that case, we are all, indeed, unique. The only person who lives in this world is me. (What a great thought from Donald... I can just taste that hamburger now. ) But the question is, if we are each in our own individual world, aren't we already in solitude? We can invite other people to share a tiny piece of our world for a time, as friends help reflect our true feelings back to us... like attracts like. But in the end, are we not still in some semblance of solitude? And, is that a bad thing? I don't think so. "[snip]...some of us get lost to get away and be alone to 'hear ourselves think'." Again, not a bad thing... the illusions of the world today sometimes can be a blocker to introspection of your thoughts... I've been known to take days and declare them "no techonology days"... no TV, no radio, no cars, no moving metal parts... just me, bouncing along a trail... calming and peaceful. We need physical solitude at times to reconcile ourselves to ourselves.... at least, I know I do. ;D Rokclmr
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Post by ray on Jun 3, 2002 9:50:19 GMT -5
hi!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks milena, myopinion and rokcmlr!!!!!!!!!
"But the question is, if we are each in our own individual world, aren't we already in solitude? "...........rokcmlr
Thats a wonderful question. I guess you are right:)
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Post by Bead on Jul 9, 2002 22:41:33 GMT -5
I am new to this board, yes. I would just like to extend a comment upon the original topic of this thread--solitude vs. companionship.
Solitude always comes to me, whether by my choice or through some string of coincidences, whenever I seem to need it the most. This may be a matter of assessing what happens, solitude, in terms of what I'm feeling, when the two have no causal relationship. But that is besides the point--what I mean to say is merely that I enjoy my solitude when I have it, and I have noticed something interesting:
Twice now, something occurred when I had given up on finding *someone*, that magical partner who makes utter sense and understands me intuitively. Only when I reached bottom, so to speak, finding solace in solitude as a comfort, rather than a curse, reaching the conclusion that perhaps I was not meant to find anyone, did I find those people that make the most sense to me.
Each of those two men is intelligent, talented, humble, spiritual-yet-open, musical, good with words...In each instance, in short, each was everything I was searching for in a soulmate. Yet I only found them once I had adopted solitude and the contemplation and joy that could be found there.
While I'm still young, and it is thus uncertain if either of these men will actually be my forever-one-soulmate, that is not the point of what I'm saying. Rather, I'm merely illustrating the positive effects of change, of stepping back a bit, and perhaps even of vehemently rejecting the situation one is in in favor of a new philosophy. This is one of the fundamental tenets of Richard Bach's philosophy, I think, the power inherent in choosing to risk oneself in solitude or a new system of thought.
Well, that's all. I hope that I am welcome on this board -- I find Richard Bach's books to each be illustrative, and many of his philosophical ideas seem to be inherently *true*, resonating with my deepest sense of right. That, of course, as Bach might say himself, is the test of any idea's strength--whether that resonance exists. My favorite Bach books happen to be _The_Bridge_Across_Forever_, _Illusions_, and _One_.
Best wishes...everything I say could, well, be inherently false.
We shall see...
Bead
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Post by rokclmr on Jul 10, 2002 6:54:46 GMT -5
"Rather, I'm merely illustrating the positive effects of change, of stepping back a bit, and perhaps even of vehemently rejecting the situation one is in in favor of a new philosophy." ..."[snip]...the power inherent in choosing to risk oneself in solitude or a new system of thought. " Bead -- thanks for the oh-so-timely reminder. A well put statement in a well written post. Welcome to the site... hope to read you again. Rokclmr "Discoveries are often made by not following the instructions, by going off the main road, by trying the untried." Frank Tyger
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