Astrology and the Bachs

[Harbie]

I always knew Leslie was a pisces

just now learned Richard is cancer

no wonder...

(i missed it all-i feel for him seperating form his soulmate)

...he went back into hiding (I gather?)

still, even in "failure" he teaches us something

she did too...

it's a powerful calling to put your ~self~ out *front*

and fot that to be on the emotional level,,,both waters they are...

all I have to say as ONE who learns

Thank you...ya'll who don't resist standing in the fire

I'm a cappy myself...and not such a risk taker

(((hugs))))

[Grave]

Nice,I did not know.


I believe in stars and their signs, but never believed star-signs.
I wonder if star-signs really mean something afterall?

But then: Do soulmates select a favorable star-sign always?

Can't make out the head and tail of it yet ;D

Grave(help)

[JTwolf]

Of course starsigns mean something literal! Why else would they be put in the heavons above us to see everynite if not?? Why else would the descriptions fit so close to who we are in those respective signs?? If something is, it just is and there is no need to question once one realizes that it IS.

[Bluebird]

Do soulmates always select perfect star-sign combination? Me and mine are a perfect example of a NO. I am aries and he is aquarian = we're supposed to have a quick, passionate relationship because in the end we get bored with each other. ;D Also, in Chinese horoscope I am an ape and he a tiger = the worst possible combination. Go figure. ;D

[JTwolf]

The fact that the signs are real, and very discriptive, does not, however, make them definitive...they are, however real, merely a guide....a tool if you will. As is most gifts given us through the earth and space.......anything can happen....and to strictly define you humans is almost impossible! You were given CHOICE.

[Grave]

All in all it a draw?

I was just thinking, some of us with same star-signs or combinaitons never become our good friends until one in hundreds(or thousands).

Two people from same starsign dont mean same characters, or, are they always similar in some way?

Grave(a fish)

[Michael]

Astrology is a huge subject and in a sense the 'Sun sign only' newspaper and magazine columns have done more harm than anything else to astrology. Why is this? It is because, knowing one's exact time of birth, as well as the 'sign' of the Sun for an individual, each person has his Moon sign, Mercury sign, Venus, Mars, etc etc.

Two people have the same Sun sign and completely different other planet positions, yet sun sign astrology columns in newspapers talk specifics about what will happen for everyone with a certain 'star sign'. Its simply ridiculous and no wonder astrology in a lot of circles has been given such a bad rap.

All the planets at the time of birth are in aspect to each other (the angles they make between each of them) also. The major aspects are in conjunction, square, opposition, trine, sextile. Depending on the aspects between the planets these confer beneficial or perhaps challenging influences for the individual. Added to this there are the house placements for each planet. The astrological houses show us which spheres or aspects of life receive more weight than others in a chart. As you might guess, once the time of birth is known the possible combinations run into millions for specific individual.

When it comes to compatibility with others one can analyse the two natal charts and see how the different influences interact. Its never as simple as such and such Sun signs are compatible with such and such other Sun signs!

So where does free will come into this? Well I like to think of it like the weather. If it rains and I'm outside I'm likely to put my coat on. Do I have the free will not to put it on? Of course...but its unlikely. In the same way natal astrological chart shows the energies at work that implies the challenges or 'weather forecast' in our own personalities. If you imagine before you are born you 'chose' to be born at a specific time for your 'forecast' to be just right so you could work with the energies that would challenge and help with your growth as a soul I think that comes close to the mark.

Michael

article about free will www.dkfoundation.co.uk/dkfQfreeWill.htm

free basic computer charts, articles www.astro.com

once you know your chart positions you can look here for various compiled authors interpretation of the different aspects etc (menu down left of page)

groups.msn.com/HOROSCOPESCHAT

[Bluebird]

Michael, I've always wondered, how does astrology work, in theory? How do the gravitations/energies of planets influence us here on earth? I know how the moon influences physically, but for example other planets? Is it gravitation or the composition of the planets (ground elements)? How does the theory go?

[Michael]

Hi Bluebird :-)

I'm not an expert on this but I'll try my best to explain! Funnily enough I've just enrolled on a course on Esoteric Astrology so this explantion is a bit like revision!..hee hee!

If you first consider the human chakra system (have a look here www.myss.com/chakras.asp ) you can see they are the energy centres located in the etheric body of the human vehicle. The etheric body is said to be a higher body that interpenetrates the lower denser physical body.For people with etheric vision, they can see the etheric body in the form of an egg shaped aura.

Every emotion, feeling, thoughts whether positive or negative affect the chakras in the etheric body. The higher chakras are those positioned in the body above the diaphragm and opening these chakras is the purpose of spiritual awareness. The chakras below the diaphragm are said to be open in all human beings. If there is negativity in a certain area of your life then that is said to 'register' in one of the chakras or 'receiving centres', in the etheric body. This then eventually manifests, if strong enough, as some sort of illness in the physical body . For example if you have difficulty 'speaking your truth' in certain situations this causes a block in the throat chakra and eventually might manifest as a persistent sore throat. Always the registration affects the etheric body first then may manifest in the physical body later. This is why its important to remain positive as negativity literally creates illness in the etheric body getting ready over time to descend to actual physical manifestation!

It is also said that the planets also have an etheric 'body' as well as of course a physical manifestation that can be seen. Its is said that they are not just lumps of rock and gas but actual physical manifestation of a higher reality. This acts as a distributor of energy dependent on the quality and nature of the specific planet. This energy is said to affect the etheric body of each human being on the planet through the chakras. At the time of birth the natal chart depicts the 'map' of the etheric body ,a blueprint of the planetary energies affecting the person on entering our world.

For this to make sense one has to accept that the exact time of birth is no accident. The soul is said to choose the time of birth at a certain moment when the planetary energies are right to help it with its lessons on Earth. For example, say in a previous incarnation a soul had a problem with discipline. In the next incarnation he might choose to have an aspect of Saturn (the planet of restriction) at the moment of birth which will imprint the etheric body and subtly help the soul to have more discipline. As well as that the natal chart or 'etheric map' hints at our tendencies from past incarnations and our challenges for this one.

Hope that helps,

Michael

[JTwolf]

What Michael said!!! 10-4.

[Bluebird]

So... why only the planets in our solar system? There are probably thousands of exoplanets out there. And why only planets, not stars and moons other than our own moon and the sun?

Also, I find it hard to believe that planets could manifest higher energy. I believe there are currents of higher energy, but what's the link to planets? Why would the energies have to behave exactly like planets? to me it seems like unnecessary symbolism: rituals that shadow the truth.

I don't mean to criticize and these words are not said in a harsh tone.

[Michael]

Hi Bluebird,

For the sake of brevity I didn't mention how the planets receive the energy that they distribute. But certainly it is said energy comes from all 'Starry worlds' (inc exoplanets) to the constellations of the Milky Way, then to our Solar System(in that order)

Michael :-)

if you have the concern for further reading check out laluni.helloyou.ws/netnews/bk/astrology/toc.html

It is in places a difficult to understand book and uses ancient terms but it might answer some of your queries as I haven't the time to give lengthy replies at the moment