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Post by lizanne333 on Jun 8, 2005 13:14:40 GMT -5
Hello, beautiful wynsong: wynsong said to OB1: sorry to take a quote from OB1, wynsong, but yes!!!! I read Mary Summerrain's books too!!! I don't know what I have done with them, lost them in the "divorce sale", guess. As I recall, she was only to write was it 3 books? I have been able to read the Bible again, old testament. I couldn't for so long because the words hurt me.....sound familiar? I identified with the "sinner" Ecclesiastes: Soloman....Interesting, my 333 has been following me around, and it turns out that Solomon's ring, has his seal on it, and it is a pentacle with 5 triangles=3 sides each, plus 5 sided hexagon? (I think that is what it is). On the seal, each side of each triangle has a 3 on it. Also, when I was reading a Garden of Pomegranates, by Israel Regardie, Hebrew Characters lifted up off the page, entered my eyes, and slammed into my chest, causing me to cry out. Ever since, I see 333 whereever I go. My code for entry when working was 333 and this was chosen by me inadvertently, years before these other events. I can still sense the characters across my forhead, but have no idea what they say, nor have I had anyone tell me. A shaman told me after doing numerology and other rites that I had the same numbers as Edgar Cayce and that I was Edgar Cayce reincarnated. Edgar Cayce said he was the RAY of RA, previously..... Ensuing events in Half Moon Bay, where in the crystal shop, I wanted to hold a particular watermelon tourmaline, it was huge, and gorgeous. The proprietor would not let me hold it, as she said, "I know who you are, and you are too powerful, I am afraid you will fracture this crystal." My initial awakening was when I was between 19-20, and I was reading "There is a River", regarding Edgar Cayce, when I heard a powerful voice. I could go on, but to conserve space here for Edina, our sweetheart; and we can discuss these things later, no? In response to: Doggone it wynsong, I just care, ya know? But you are right. I have spun my wheels, and wounded my soul trying to "make" people see, and the key word here was "make". I hate to leave them behind. In retrospect; however, maybe, just maybe if we generate, create the "new way", manifest it, they will bring up the rear. But time is short, and you might be able to clarify this, as I have heard again and again, the Earth on its' axis is moving 1.65" per year. The vedics speak to the flipping of the planet, anddd then we have the traditional fundamentalists envisioning Armeggedon, and we have the "others" slipping in behind that vision, possibly bringing it about for some sort of tyrannical purposes. These things, I see, and in my last "crash", I saw how it works, and it made me afraid, and I am still kinda caught in the need to "put out these fires", unless you can convince me that they are an illusion...and will go nowhere, please? All for now, signing out Lizanne333, IS+IS
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Post by lizanne333 on Jun 8, 2005 13:26:38 GMT -5
richard+ish says: Hello richard, let's put it this way, and honesty is of critical importance with me. I "hear your voice inside of me", I heard it this morning before all of this wonderful posted insight came. I arose from bed, fixed a cup of coffee and came here shaking in my slippers, as I was afraid I may have offended you in some way......from last nites post. I have gotten myself in trouble for attaching myself to any images here on the forum, again and again. Richard, I am afraid to look. Do you understand? If I were to say, and yes there is a picture in my mind, suppose I am wrong. I am afraid that I will plunge. Grave told me that it is my fear of suffering that I must address. As I recall, it was your voice I heard Saturday a week ago, when I received the incredible vision of the universe, and just how little of it my "vehicle" could contain. As I writhed with the vision, @ 10:00 am, there was Thunder over Corvallis. I did not hear the thunder, all I was in that moment was a primal scream.. This is the second time in the last 3 months that thunder has been associated, (coincidentally?) with a profound experience I have had, shaking the windows, and scaring my dogs. So, I will wait for your response, and hopefully, if I will just allow, somehow, honeycomb universe is continually popping in my mind....Shooooo Beee!= Yellobee bear with me, K? Lizanne
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Post by wynsong on Jun 8, 2005 13:32:23 GMT -5
All that came to me as a read that is is:
"All things are an illusion, Lisanne."
Your body separate from my body= illusion. Death being the end of life=illusion. Attachement to anything= illusions...from our attachement to this body, our 'life', each other, our stuff...it is all illusion. We live for our illusions.
I think change will come, because change has always come, and it is our fear of change (illusion) that creates in us resistance.
In the not too long ago, science was heresy, now for some it is God....neither are truth....illusions.
Good luck with your illusions Lisanne! All illusions seem to lead to now here, not nowhere.
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Post by lizanne333 on Jun 8, 2005 14:09:58 GMT -5
wynsong says: wynsong, Wow!, and this I will have to study abit.....I have moments where I am one with everything, but it is transitory in my consciousness. I am still here in my office, alone, except for what I am learning from you and RB, etc....please, and then I must take care of things here today, I must go! , how do I be with you, and everyone here, as here is where I share my love with you guys, as I am, whereas in the world, well you know... Sometimes I think I would rather just allow my spirit to leave the body, and then if I am able to, come back at will. I probably am already doing this, but I am not awake, aware of it...By the way, your last post sounded like someone else I love...interesting. -L
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Post by richardish on Jun 8, 2005 15:35:54 GMT -5
Hello Lizanne, Your explanation is truly sufficient right"now". Sometime in the "future" I'll ask you again. Just as an aside or two............. My name is'nt Richard, I'm richard-ish And my D.O B. is July 10th R
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Post by lizanne333 on Jun 8, 2005 21:03:48 GMT -5
Senor ish says: Yellow, green, red, blue, ish is his name and Richard is his game ;D Hmmmmmm! sorry to disappoint but other than the elder guy no pictures have I seen, but a softness in this one's voice, helped save my hide!!!! last nites sunset, crimson pon white and bluuuu and was thinking of you and "looking yonder lies the pot of gold!" Am painting, (here when my ACT comes together) clouds upn my cello case, and they say that my best art is painting cloudsssssss, and and "the rain bowwws before the............" and funny too, somewhere under this rainbow I know I presented the idea of solid golden egg Easter hunt, for a feeeeeeeefffffooooorrrrrcccchhhairity! Ish see if you can find it, K? and IKNOIKNOIKNOIkNO..........things and no things So cool, and should I ask?, 50 questions? what? got somethin' in your eye? I hear there is alot of that goin' 'round and round and round...... I'd say a chip off the OLD BLOCK(head) more current version, you know, more up to date and all that! Well, and dejon is my favorite musturd, slathered upon slami, and where oh where....... PHOTO ID REQ no entry without 2, yes that would be 2 ID's please! HummmmmLA proved to much for the girl..........Leavin', leavin on the midnite train.......for....................?hmmm!
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Post by lizanne on Jun 9, 2005 1:23:47 GMT -5
wynsong: I seem to go through disintegration and reorganization. This can occur in a matter of hours. I notice in my writing that it reflects this....And yet even in the disorganization, there seems to be seeds of organization.. It is difficult to explain. From reading your last post, I am gathering that all is a projection...boy this tough! And earlier in the day I posted re: the dream where I was a star shedding light thus seeing the darkness.... and running thru my brain is El Condor Pasa-Simon, except I hear I'd rather be a sun's ray than a star, anyday, anyday! As I was searching for the lyrics, I stumbled across this: I Think too Much-Simon- which has addressed much of what we have talked about. They say that the left side of the brain Controls the right They say that the right side Has to work hard all night Maybe I think too much for my own good Some people say so Other people say no no The fact is You don't think as much as you could hmmm I had a childhood that was mercifully brief I grew up in a state of disbelief I started to think too much When I was twelve going on thirteen Me and the girls from St. Augustine Up in the mezzanine Thinking about God Maybe I think too much Maybe I think too much Maybe I think too much Maybe I think too much Have you ever experienced a period of grace When your brain just takes a seat behind your face And the world begins The Elephant Dance Everything's funny Everyone's sunny You take out your money And walk down the road That leads me to the girl I love The girl I'm always thinking of But maybe I think too much And I ought to just hold her Stop trying to mold her Maybe blindfold her And take her away Maybe I think too much Maybe I think too much Maybe I think too much Maybe I think too much So, and if I am a projection of a star, that makes me like a character in a movie, moving at the behest of the light that sent me...what about everyone else, is it the same movie, the same star projection, or is it same star projecting many different rays, with each ray part of a separate movie. If, I understand your last couple posts, everytime I encounter another person, my entire experience is me mirrored to me from them??? but that doesn't sound right. I get it that I am a projection of light encased in physicality. Where I seem to get confused is in the interaction of myself with others. If I am happy, and I have had more happy partial days lately, where I am laughing with everyone I can, but the response of the other is sometime not mirroring my laughter. They may appear distracted, or uninterested in a lightheartedness I may be projecting. So the mirroring cannot always be accurate as to how I feel. If I am happy, and the other is unhappy, I would have the tendency to feel they are unhappy because of me. How's that for narcissism! Unfortunately, then how can it be true "that we see ourselves in others", if I am happy and they appear sad? Boy entering into this level of consciousness "seems" like a mind twist! I just wanted to stat this before heading to bed, as I suspect I may have posted something perceived by others as a bit unusual. It was only me playing 'round with words, for fun....... Hoping the weather for you is fine inside and outside this day, and thanks for pondering these things with me.... -L
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Post by wynsong on Jun 9, 2005 7:04:50 GMT -5
If I'm happy and I perceive you to be unhappy...I may be right, if you behave "unhappy' in a way that is a reflection of how I would behave "unhappy". If you are not unhappy and just "are", and I perceive your "are" as unhappy, then it is because if iwas as you are, I would be "unhappy".
Projection, as I understand it, means that I percieve the world through my filters, therefore what I am sensing, is defined by my mind (that wondeful computer that analyzes and then catalogues all my sensory experiences into easily retrievable bits and bites (some conscious and others unconscious) so that my "now" can be made "sense" of based on my minds stories of my past. So everything I sense about my "now" including the state of those around me (emotional being only one of many of my programs that might be being triggered), is a trigger for programs that I have for my own behaviours that i would be demonstrating if I was in that "state".
I was forcably reminded of this with my children yesterday. My 20 year old is currently unemployed, and was offered an opportunity to "earn" some money working for a friend of mine. This friend has high standards and likes to "help" everyone become the best he sees that they can be...my son does not like (substitue "hates") working with this particular person. As such he is not returning the phone calls, to avoid saying "no"....Those are the facts as the behaviour can be observed... My response had little to do with those facts, but goes back to my history with my son and his desire to go the extra mile to do what is necessary to help himself, and my own reaction to being a 'victim'...to my experience with my ex, and his 'caring' for others....(these dot, dot , dots indicate that the programs in my mind go on and on, and that the ones mentioned are only the easy access ones.) My response to my son, and his response back to me, had little to do with the "now" and everything to do with the stories of our past, and the emotions and patterns they trigger in both of us.
When I'm doing a journey for someone, I must be careful to only bring back the 'map' of the experience and not to interpret it, as the minute I interpret it, I impose my past/my journey on their map. ] I love Miguel Ruiz's The Voice of Knowledge...in which he says we are the central characters of the story of our own life, and everyone in it are secondary characters we have written in to create our story. As we are in their story.
I must reread that book.
I never know where these posts will lead me.
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Post by wynsong on Jun 9, 2005 7:17:29 GMT -5
I have to run...children needing rides...however, this has taken me into my own journey...and Lizanne...until this moment I have wondered why I have no toe hold in most of what you write.... Thank you!
I'll explain when I get back....it will be pen and paper for me, while sitting in waiting rooms.
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Post by lizanne333 on Jun 9, 2005 10:44:15 GMT -5
Wynsong: Below is an exerpt from "I Think to Much"-Simon Posted by lizanne on Today at 2:23 Have you ever experienced a period of grace When your brain just takes a seat behind your face And the world begins The Elephant Dance Everything's funny Everyone's sunny Looks like Paul Simon understands these things...I have had a few moments of the above myself. Seems, when the memories spilling forth from my brain through my thoughts, containing mostly pain, and distortion, and then reinforced by my interactions with others, delivering the confirmation back to me, that my experience in "ALL of my life has been suffering and pain, then I am separated from the moment....then I AM all of my past pain + the new experiences of pain from my current interactions, all rolled into one... And this "snowball" seems to grow larger, and larger, further separating meself from the glory all 'round me in the minute.. I know there is a way.....I know it in the core of my being, and it must be discovered and implemented by me, "this setting of the self free" and then reduced to a 1 and delivered to humanity in such a way, visually, and via other senses- that it may help set them free without all of this hogwash struggle......unless, of course they chooes to and that would be.....choose to suffer! ;D and I hear the Neil Youg song strollin' thru me brain: "....I've been in my mind, it's such a fine mind" What I am looking for is the continual "grace walkin", for I see it in the birds, and the trees, and my dogs, and in all things, (non-human), and none of them that I can see have such a need to turn their brains inside out, they are in that state of "God's Grace", at least it would appear so to me. And so, this morning, I too have some things to do, and I must re-read your morning post, and reflect again on other posts, and see if I can find my own key, and just a give it a twist, for myself, and others that may need to become free. love to you winsong! -Lizanne
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Post by lizanne333 on Jun 9, 2005 22:07:31 GMT -5
Hey anybody have a hobbit hole available?
Saw some cool underwater hotels, can you believe it? 50 feet under water. Talk about a skylight! There is a bed in a very small capsule and the entire ceiling is plexiglass, like at the Monterey Aquarium....
Either way, right now hobbit hole sounds good. If no response, then it is off to fix dinner. Picked up a huge organic chicken from a friend who raises them.....
No GMO, no hormones, just worms, and organic feed. I am a good cook, any takers?
-L
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Post by Bluebird on Jun 10, 2005 2:59:22 GMT -5
Nope, unless it's a chicken made of vegetables. ;D Too bad about the hobbit hole, we just bought a new apartment.. oh well, at least it's got sea view.
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Post by lizanne333 on Jun 10, 2005 12:21:12 GMT -5
Spiritual Conversation-Interview w/ Richard Bach « Thread Started on 4/3/05 at 22:55 »
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Post by Allowing on Jun 10, 2005 12:49:17 GMT -5
That would b Nice uknohoo
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Post by Falion on Jun 11, 2005 0:12:30 GMT -5
hobbit hole? ........i love those books, great job on the movies as well...but what the fuc* does it have to do with Bach?....
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