Samir
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Post by Samir on Mar 29, 2005 7:30:08 GMT -5
I guess, it's time for Richard Bach, or probably some one else, to redefine the highly romantic view of love that was made famous by Richard Bach.
I have seen people interpreting his views differently and getting hurt on the way.
In my view, true love is a way of life. Of being good at what we do, at work, in our relationships, and interactions with everyone else.
Let's get a discussion going on this: Does the Bach view of love need a change and how it could change?
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Post by Bluebird on Mar 29, 2005 9:53:19 GMT -5
Interesting question you posed! Do you mean love should not be so romantic? Or can it be highly romantic and realistic at the same time?
I was going to write about my romantic, idealist definition of love but then I thought, love is always love! No matter which form it takes, if it's between soulmates or friends or family, it's always a pure form of joy, respect, good wishes and care. We can dress a relationship up any way we please, but the kernel inside always consists of the same thing, unchanged.
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Post by peter on Mar 29, 2005 13:02:33 GMT -5
Be youre own think youre own do youre own
after that?
all you will have is a dance. with the moment you have left
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Post by Grave on Mar 30, 2005 7:18:26 GMT -5
I guess, it's time for Richard Bach, or probably some one else, to redefine the highly romantic view of love that was made famous by Richard Bach. I have seen people interpreting his views differently and getting hurt on the way. In my view, true love is a way of life. Of being good at what we do, at work, in our relationships, and interactions with everyone else. Let's get a discussion going on this: Does the Bach view of love need a change and how it could change? Hi Sameer :-) Pleasure and Pain go hand in hand. However, in absolute love,one would always be in a bliss. May be Richard tried to explain "true love" rather than "love that we know". He is trying to describe a possibility I guess. Love is our true state, a soul's natural vibration(personal idea only) Love changes its meaning as it comes on this plane from "giving" to "self satisfaction" I as a human, when fall in love, it is because the other person starts to understand and care for me, in return I do to. But, all in all, its no different from a business deal "you comfort me, and I'll comfort you" This isn't love Love is supposed to be perfect(or almost perfect) and somewhat that Richard has talked about(I think). The only reason to why we don't want to believe it is because it is rarely seen(may be never).. So, should I settle for a compromised defination? May be with someone, I might slowly, reach that perfect stage someday. If it exists in an idea, it exists for the believers.Grave(illuded by truth)
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Post by JTwolf on Mar 31, 2005 0:37:41 GMT -5
Hmmmm....personally, I don't believe so. I think RB's veiw is just perfect.....for him. As is my veiw just perfect for me.....and Grave's is just perfect for him...and Edina's is just perfect for her....you see, Love IS. Love is perfect. As Grave says:
Very true...Love, to so many, has consequences and conditions. That's not True Love.....True Love has none of the above, True Love Loves. Personally, I don't think True Love is possible in this life plane. Also, just a thought that just came to me, I don't think that two people have to always "be/stay" together in order to have True Love. True Love loves no matter what. The having to be together/stay together thing comes from the conditions of Love that all humans put on it.
That's because these people are basically lazy! They won't take the time to discover or find their own style of True Love, so they try to copy someone elses, like RB's, and of course they'll get hurt. Because what he wrote about was HIS OWN True Love.....remember that my True Love is different from everyone else's....and is all of ours.
It could be looked at that way....I, personally, choose to believe that True Love is a gift of life. And by being good at what we do is consequence of being IN LOVE with our life. By being truly thankful and appreaciative of that Life. But then again....I could be very wrong!
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Post by Grave on Mar 31, 2005 9:54:08 GMT -5
Let's get a discussion going on this: Does the Bach view of love need a change and how it could change? May be the way Shimoda might have had a soulmate if he were Grave(Wild fluke)
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Samir
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Post by Samir on Apr 1, 2005 0:41:04 GMT -5
Leslie talked about Richard's facination for beginnings; I personally believe that to be true. Richard started something beautiful through his books. His ideas can be taken further. A forum of people who have taken time to learn from Richard's ideas and even gone on to practice them in their own lives have the potential to grow those ideas. Richard talked of an ideal love, we could discuss how to achieve that ideal love. Agreed that the way could be different for different people. In the manner that Richard built an ideal picture of love, we could try building an ideal route to get there.
Growing in love with a person with whom we see a potential as against looking endlessly for that ideal person. Achieving personal growth while living with the person we love as against parting ways to achieve that growth. Respecting and allowing the other person to lead a life different from ours, while still being in love and wanting to live together. Being together in pursuit of different goals without destroying each other.
These are the lessons I'm looking to learn and I believe the answers are there somewhere, waiting to be discovered.
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Post by Grave on Apr 1, 2005 8:18:04 GMT -5
Agreed that the way could be different for different people. True my friend More or less the final idea of love seems to be common, unlike one common road. The road for everyone cannot be common could it be? Grave
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Post by Falion on Apr 1, 2005 8:20:18 GMT -5
The melding of souls and experience. REALIZING this amongst the caos of reality.....love.
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Post by Grave on Apr 1, 2005 8:24:46 GMT -5
Tha gardner Avatar falion sow some love
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Post by Falion on Apr 1, 2005 8:43:01 GMT -5
we shall sow away !! (Avatar? what does that mean?)
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Post by Edina on Apr 1, 2005 9:00:35 GMT -5
It's the picture under your name.
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Post by eponine1971 on Apr 1, 2005 10:17:38 GMT -5
I am a poet myself. I have written quite a bit on the subject. Instead of posting one of my poems, I will give my view now. As a young adult I fell in love and married only to have that man abuse me. I have been raped by another man who claimed to love me. I have been betrayed by men who claimed to love me. After all that, you would think that I have grown cynical about the emotion. I have chosen not to let other's actions poison my truth.
The man who abused me also gave me two children. The rapes have given me depth and compassion. And the betrayals have allowed me to recognise the purity and innocence of an honest sentiment. I am in love now. And it is the deepest love that I have ever felt. Love does not confine. It keeps no record of right or wrong. It is not jealous or judgemental. Love accepts us as we are but allows us to become who we are destined to be.
I don't believe that Richard needs to redifine it. He's just a man. And like all great men, he has great faults. When I started writing poetry, I tried to write like cummings. I admired him. I believed in his vision. And then I realized that he did not break the common rules to replace them with his own. So I found my own voice, my own style. I believe Richard would want the same for us.
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Post by Falion on Apr 1, 2005 10:22:37 GMT -5
Well said..
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Post by Grave on Apr 3, 2005 23:56:42 GMT -5
Beautiful expression of thought... Would love to read a poem Grave
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