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Post by Monia on Mar 30, 2005 10:52:34 GMT -5
I don't celebrate Easter, but thanks!! Happy Easter to you too! May everything work out the way you want it! Grazie Edina! The week end with my boy has been very nice..as I really needed . I hope this would continue like that..you know, I'm afraid to be disillusioned .. love, Monia
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Post by Grave on Mar 31, 2005 9:48:23 GMT -5
I hope this would continue like that..you know, I'm afraid to be disillusioned .. love, Monia God bless you with your kind of journey
Grave(voice from the dense woods)
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Post by Monia on Apr 5, 2005 7:36:04 GMT -5
Grave, thanks so much..the same may happen to you.. ...so happy to have joined this forum;)
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Post by Monia on Apr 18, 2005 2:51:01 GMT -5
God bless you with your kind of journey
Grave(voice from the dense woods) Well..disillusioned again. because of my limits and my apathy.. I don't really know what does make me try again and hope again in this road..I really feel egoist to him. I'm wandering if it would be sane and right If I leave him from all this pain I create.I care so much for him..
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Post by lizanne333 on Apr 18, 2005 10:44:12 GMT -5
Monia says re: Cetti:
Cetti, Monia:
Who am I but some crazy woman who has had some unusual experience with "God", and as such if you decide to discount the following, well that is your choice. Know this. These comments are born of a love in me like none I have ever known.
I too, have experienced a broken "covenent", one that I gave my entire self to-to another. It broke me; brought me to my knees, pasted my face to the pavement, once again! I seemed to have lost my ability to function. Life for me was going through the motions, and even that, I wasn't doing well. It has been 5 years now, and I hope to God that "naturally" the pieces are coming back together.
I realize now that I was looking to the love of another to complete me. That there was a giant hole in me that I thought could only be filled by the love inside another. I actually realize now that I gave away a core part of myself that was so essential to my own survival. I gave that part which I need now to recover; because it is truly the part of me that should be given to no one other than to myself.
I "objectified" my soul/love.
I had a romantic vision/notion of love. I was "ripe" for this type of romantic interlude because I was not whole, complete, inside myself.
Truly, this was not LOVE, but an attachment to another, out of a neediness.
As I look back I see that the handwriting was on the wall. I saw the cracks, felt them inside of me, though I chose not to believe. My rejection of "this knowing" of the cracks' existence, caused me to ignore them and cling even more desperately to the "object" containing "my self", which I thought I could not live without.
Therin lay the illusion. I created this illusion in order to keep the"object of my love/self" near me, for that was the only way I had a sense of who I was.
Hopefully, if these words ring true for you, as a result you will not need to suffer for as long as I have. All that I have to do is view the poets' words, or maybe create a Collage of words myself/yourself, as it helps.
When a human being has touched that place within him/herself, something like the core of their being, they have actually reached their source. Within that source they will find a channel, or a container, if you will that is available for love to flow through.
Love, in and of itlf can not be ownded, it i omething that visits us. Ok guys, I am trying to let go here, so see that my spelling is incorrect, and I am letting go for you andofor me. Love is an entity of itself . It is a life a river in which we partake, it comes and goes., to us and through us, and the more we understnd this the more we are able to partake of its glory As such, as we partake in the river of spritual consciousness, we find love therin, and the more we view it , and partake in it the grater our coapicty to receivre and utilize more. Love is, and my hnad stumblles here as I would that you cld fele it in my fwords, the healing balm availble to us to nruture ourselves in times of trble. and pain and suffring, o f whch weare all familiar with. Ho wnderful that this love is not contingnt upon another, but is available to us for ourselves. it is easy, truly it is . if one can finde its essenc in the light of these words, you will awkn to the channel in side of you, and instntly u are filled, in you for you as it has alw ays been for u first.
Ths love takes you unto itself, bathes yur sole delivers unto the comeplteness of your being, it heals thee and me and all things, and in ths my access to this love I give unt o your soul that you might access this channel yourselves and become compleat for yourselves, and when ths occurs, naturally, from the abundance available in you and thru you love itself flows into the lives of others, tches the lives of others, and never aganwil you suffer form lloss of self for whe n 2 or more are togehter brngin the compltness of lovefilled selves, there entrs an additional aura the bolssm of the organ ism of love itself. this si eternal, sweet love, eternal, and though u may be apart u still have yourselves and your love and that is as it shld be u give from your abundance and as you then give new stremas of love fill as in a vacuum. love replensihes itself.
my love I have much and I give it to thee that you may be heeld and more thn thet find the wellsprng for yursleves.
liznne
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Post by eponine1971 on Apr 18, 2005 13:55:30 GMT -5
You are so right about the Love within all of us. I think this is a wisdom that comes with age and experience. It is unfortunate that we suffer to find this peace. I believe I was like most young women. I suffered from "snowwhite poisoning." It is what comes from watching too many fairytales that focus on the getting to the happily-ever-after. They view the getting together as the adventure, the test. But that is not the case.
You can't give away what you don't have. You have to love yourself to be able to give and accept the love of another. But once that exchange has taken place, it should free you not binde your soul. When you draw another near you, you do so for a purpose. And if you choose to walk your life with someone that is where the adventure begins and continues as you learn more of each other.
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Post by Monia on Apr 19, 2005 2:46:48 GMT -5
Absolutely right for me. Your words and your vision of Love within ourselves. But what about if you meet the right person you know to be the ONE you want to share your experiences, to learn to grow,even with incomprehensions, little stikes..that you recognise someway (some real strange way inside of you and that is *NOT* your reason but something deeper..) to be your same SOUL and you're still not ready to love? Maybe an occasion, your GRETEST OCCASION to grow.and TO LOVE. I don't know. I feel egoist.I feel really bad. I'm not in peace. When I feel I let myself be "at home" with him I really feel peace and joy. And every part of my life get cured.Not much because he's gives me something I miss(and even is he really gives me much Love, well..is that a fault?)but bacause I feel in my natural place, feeling like I come back Home since I really don't know.And I repeat: It's something that cure my life and this Love and found peace I can give to others,and make me better. That's one the sensations because I *feel* this Love is Something extraordinary Good..and everytime I call him by his name I receive a sign more "concrete" for this, being the significance of hisname "Gift by God". May Love be always with you.. the sweetest Thing
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Post by eponine1971 on Apr 19, 2005 3:40:15 GMT -5
I'm confused. How can you say you feel bad, real bad and then go on to say you feel peace with him. I don't know anything about you so it's difficult to know exactly where you are coming from. But I will say reading that makes me feel ill at ease. No one can 'cure' anyone's life. No one can fill someone up. You must be happy with yourself, with who you are. I don't necessarily think you are there yet. And I think that is colouring the way you look at this relationship.
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Post by lizanne333 on Apr 20, 2005 1:10:41 GMT -5
Dearest Monia,
Have read your postcard!
I am holding you in me for a time, until all the ingredients come to an "understanding", and then sweet love; I will respond.
Such a mind!, Such a mind! Such a Heart!
Lizanne
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Post by Grave on Apr 20, 2005 5:22:12 GMT -5
Well..disillusioned again. because of my limits and my apathy.. Hello Monia, I am sorry for being late in here .. "argue for a limitation and sure enough its ours to keep" illusions ======================================= Your love for yourself that is more than love for him .. Then... ======================================== What is right for you? ======================================== May be your another lesson is over ...for you kind of journey..... you now have achieved "CARE" ======================================== And I am glad that you are "MORE" than you areGrave(Back to Back)
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Post by Grave on Apr 20, 2005 5:42:12 GMT -5
But what about if you meet the right person you know to be the ONE And every time we find a new person better than before, because we have learnt out of experience... At each phase of life, when someone enters our world.. we tend to think that he/she is the perfect one. Our definations are limited, and may be these things happen because each soul that you draw near, inturn prepares you for the real Person you are actually suppose to meet... Trust me on this.... ======================================== When it all about "You" then it lets see, this means He stands after you. ======================================== So dear Monia, You have answered your own questions... this is why you want to be with him. ======================================== And its our nature to be in joy whatever way. ======================================== YES my dear friend.. this is love.... and(but) Love is even "MORE" Grave (With Gifts) [/b] [/i]
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Post by Monia on Apr 20, 2005 8:45:24 GMT -5
Uuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhh My God!! How many replies to my posts!!! I've just had a little time to come here and visit .. I really realize that I have some problems with my english I'll surely come back soon to reat with more and more attention all your replies I've tried to catch reading too fast for me..sorry! Please be patient with me.. if I'll ask you more explication (in other words) for something I won't understand.. Will you be so kind..I really hope so.. HAve a Great Nice Sunny day;) Much Love Monia PS. Thanks all of you for your really precious friendship..This is really a special place!
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Post by Monia on Apr 20, 2005 9:22:56 GMT -5
You have to love yourself to be able to give and accept the love of another. But once that exchange has taken place, it should free you not binde your soul. When you draw another near you, you do so for a purpose. And if you choose to walk your life with someone that is where the adventure begins and continues as you learn more of each other. [/quote] Hi You see? My answer is in your post.. What if you feel still blind but *know* somehow This is the moment you've the most beautiful Gift (for you) in your Life? All that you say here above is really right for me!!I) think exactly the same..but the poin is..what if you LET GO AWAY because your limitations?your fears and *walls* and somehow you feel this but you don't know how to free yourself to let you Love and receive Love? Thanks for your replays
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Post by Monia on Apr 20, 2005 9:27:09 GMT -5
Dearest Monia, Have read your postcard! I am holding you in me for a time, until all the ingredients come to an "understanding", and then sweet love; I will respond. Such a mind!, Such a mind! Such a Heart! Hi dear just said my english is not so ok..so... I don't understand well ..are you still thinking about my situation or thought and made in your head an idea of what I'm trying to explain? What do you think about blessings, Monia Lizanne
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Post by Monia on Apr 20, 2005 10:28:18 GMT -5
Hello Monia, I am sorry for being late in here .. "argue for a limitation and sure enough its ours to keep" illusions Yes..I often think to that.. ======================================= Your love for yourself that is more than love for him .. Then... ======================================== Do you consider me egoist by saying that,don't you?.. What is right for you? ======================================== What's right for me? from which point of view Grave..my egoism or my Soul? by reaching my place with him considering that as egoism or as the arrival to Love? May be your another lesson is over ...for you kind of journey..... you now have achieved "CARE" ======================================== Yes. Among all my insecurities (I'm an insecure by nature..) I really know one thing for sure. That I really CARE FOR HIM. But someway I stop the impulse to let this Love flow from me to him.I don't know for what reason And I am glad that you are "MORE" than you are Yes.. :)I know Grave..I know I have my infinite world inside of me to give with Love. every moment of my Life. I'm only trying to reach this and I only need manifest it without walls. Grave(Back to Back)
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