Some of the recent threads got me to thinking about the Sacred Feminine...and I wondered if there had ever been a discussion about the Da Vinci Code, by Dan Brown.
My search came up negative...
Many of the concepts he wove into his story were not new for me...and whether you like his writing style or not, I'm personally glad that he introduced the concept of the Sacred feminine and the many symbols of it that exist still in our societies to a broader base.
I was amazed to see "The Last Supper" with new eyes.
I was not amazed that the Vatican banned the book...did they do the same with The Celestial Prophesy? I can't remember.
The Sacred Feminine is hardly a "new age" topic as is it very, very old....Shamanism embraces the Sacred Feminine ...and I loved the Clarissa Este Pinkola's "Woman who Run with Wolves". Dan Brown, though has succeeded in having people discussing it though on a much larger scale.
Has anyone read other books that make the Sacred Feminine easily accessible?
Last Edit: Jun 17, 2005 21:26:15 GMT -5 by wynsong
If I tell you what I saw there is will be a SPOILER for those who haven't read it... Let me just say that I saw what the book said I'd see, which was a surprise to me.
As to the Sacred Feminine....I am very much a believer in it. The chalice, The Mother Earth...she who gave our physicality birth , and will hold our physicality when we die, she who provides for all our needs...air, water, food...self giving love, but not selfsacrificing nor all "good" in the sense of protecting us from all harm. I am not a "ritual" person, by nature...ritual becomes like the cup that holds the wisdom for me...the wisdom is what I want to touch and collect, not the cups in which it is held...I find the ritual becomes rote for me...and I lose the connection it originally brought me when it took all my awareness to be in the ritual. So I have never done well with ritual...however I know many that are...and for them it brings them to the wisdom over and over again, they never lose the connection to spirit, because the ritual is being done for ritual sake... And of course I know some of those for whom the ritual and its very "correct" way of doing it, become the end... (The war of the Pagites comes to mind) I wondered as I went to bed last night...that I couldn't easily bring up a part in any of Richard's books that dealt overtly with the Sacred Feminine....I likely need to reread them with different eyes...but would love help from anyone who saw the Sacred Feminine clearly in Richard's works.
Leslie is open and honest about her "intuition" with Richard.
She forever tries to teach him to use his own.
She does not use it as a power ploy against her man.
I could definitely accept Leslie as living the Sacred Feminine. She also was quite whole in my view...not only embodying her Wild Undomesticated Feminine, but also her Wild Undomesticated Male.
I'm going to think about this down at the Lake (gone for a week), about his books and the characters in them...and how and where they could be described as living their undomesticatable Masculine and Feminine selves...
Shimoda,,, Jonathan...Dickie....the elder gulls...I'll take them all with me...and think on them from this thought.
I love these forums...I never know where they will take me.
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Post by eponine1971 on Jun 18, 2005 12:35:32 GMT -5
I was wondering if any of you had read The Vagina Monologues. The copy I have has a forward written by Gloria Steinem. It talks about how the Valentine shape looks more like a vagina then a heart. It discusses how cathedral entrances and such actually simulate the path of the vagina. It is truly a fascinating book. I recommend that every woman read it.
I laughed all the way to Vancouver reading The Vagina Monologues....the heart shaped pelvis of the woman...the womb of creation.
Gloria is coming to the lake with me...Revolutions Within...when I first got it, I stopped reading it - think it might have either been too far ahead of me on the path, or too close to home....this week at the lake...she and I will revist each other.
Post by lizanne333 on Jun 19, 2005 22:08:08 GMT -5
As to the Sacred Feminine....I am very much a believer in it. The chalice, The Mother Earth...she who gave our physicality birth , and will hold our physicality when we die, she who provides for all our needs...air, water, food...self giving love, but not selfsacrificing nor all "good" in the sense of protecting us from all harm.
I have been having "visions", also having dreams, seems like I am "awake" in the dreams... During a vision, just laying resting, I saw a female/male individual. I mean looking at the image it could either be a male or a female. He/she had black hair, below the chin, dark eyes, and part indian, I would say. It took some sort of "passive focusing" to maintain the image. Nothing was said to me, but the individual was so wise, I could feel the wisdom. Thought this might be cause for ponderance.
Also, I wanted to address the Mother Earth Issue with you well as the male aspect.
The Earth is so splendid, and full of every nurturing thing, however, there is one thing missing that the Earth to my understanding does not contain, and that would be Sunlight.......
In fact, it is my understanding that the Earth and most/all life upon it is made up of star stuff. From our Sun, and probably star stuff of many Suns before it.
So then if the Earth is made of star stuff, and the bodies residing upon the Earth are carbon based, then our physical bodies and the planet are a "projection", or an ejection from the Sun Itself. (This does not preclude the possibility of other "material factors" from space intermingling themselves in the equation)
So, and looking back over the mannnnnny eons of information available through the Bible>Egypt>Zoroaster>Hindu and all the way back to the Vedics.....
There have been individuals in physical form here on the Earth that encompass the "Light" of different Suns throughout the Universe.
As our planet turns around the Sun, As our Sun and its planets turn in space, within the arm of the Galaxy in which we reside, which is also flinging around a "central Sun", and then the Galaxy itself is turning in a dance among other galaxies.....(hopefully you are able to follow this). In fact the entire Universe is in a constant turning motion, and over eons of time, stars disappear from the visibility of the Earth. Over history, there have been stars here, come and gone, and "re-appear" to our vision.
Truly, even as our Sun "appears" to disappear at night, we know the Sun is forever shining, and it is just "us" that move away from the light at sunset.
The same is true with these stars...
They are not new stars, they are very old stars, and our spirits are from the light of these stars, here on this planet "cloaked" in the "housing of Mother Earth's essence".
I am from one of these stars...I have been "back there" in spirit while in vision, and believe me it was excruciatingly lonely there. That would be, "consciously aware of being a star" I got away from that dream as fast as I could, and did not talk about it for 3 weeks. There are other things I could say at this time, but I think this is enough "food for thought" Let me say this much, there are words to describe one such as me, gods, messiah, enlightened, all-knowing, etc. The truth of the matter is, truly we are all spirits from the "light of these stars", the difference is some of us know it and others are finding out about it, and some have no clue about it.
December 27th NASA's Hubble picked up the light from a very old star...the light is not visible to the earth as yet, and yet when I saw the infomation, I saw rising in me was this very old light that has been here before, and is not yet visible to the naked eye....I believe that that is the star I visited in my lonely vision.
There have been other occurances, and other "light beings" I have met with, on "high", and we have had meetings, however, I am not sure if they are here on this planet, (I hope so), or working light and love on other worlds.
I am so glad you are here wynsong, because I know you understand these things, and I can feel your intellect, and it is great!
The native concepts hold the male aspect of our creation to come from the sun....Father sun...Mother Earth...Grandmother moon....Sister/Brother Star Nations...All required to let us dance the dance of life on the Mother, with all of our relations...the rock people, the plant people, the seen and the unseen, the creepy crawlies, the many legged, the four legged, the two legged, the finned, the furred, and the feathered.
The Christian mythology is the only one that has woman born of man (that I know of anyway)...It has mankind thrown from the Garden of Eden on the 2nd page of the bible...where man will have to raise thistles and thorns by the sweat of his brow...and woman shall bear children in pain....And man is cut off from a direct relationship with nature, God himself, and the Tree of Everlasting life (until the second coming of Christ).
Native mythology contains non of that ....They did not leave the Garden of Eden and where never cut off/separated from nature or spirit. They are happy to enjoy mangos, bananas and strawberries as they are provided for them by the Mother and the Father...The have a more natural relationship with the life, death, life cycle as they believe that they can eat and drink from the Tree of Everlasting life whenever they wish.
C.S. Lewis had Stars living on Narnia (particularily in The Voyage of the Dawn Treader -- one very old and being revitalized and one who was being punished)...and he was a devout Chrisitian in his later years...and wrote extensively Christian themed books.