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Post by Bluebird on Apr 14, 2005 7:49:43 GMT -5
Lizanne, I understand that you are trying to tell us something which is of great importance and revelation to you. However I seem to get the feeling that you don't believe we've quite got to the right location yet with our thoughts. Perhaps location of thoughts does not matter? Perhaps you and me already have understood the same thing but in two forms: one form which suits you and one form which suits me. More like two appearances of truth. Mine is no less right than yours, and vice versa.
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Post by lizanne333 on Apr 15, 2005 10:15:36 GMT -5
Struggle, Struggle, Struggle, Entangle, Entangle, Entangle, Consternation, Frustration, ego bound, let it go! I feel it in me. Remove self, detach from the things of this world, including each other, that our Spirits and Souls stepping forth show the "light of attainment, which we are". IS RA GOD? = ISRAEL IS RA EL Isis Ra Elohim Amen="hidden" How many of us know that in fact the root source documented, and I am sure it goes back further than this, is Egyptian. How many Jewish know of this? How many traditional Christians know that in fact that which they reject is in fact part of their source? Have fun with this, and congradulations. In this process I have learned about more of me, through the interaction of you! Hopefully, it has been rewarding, if not frustrating on your part, (as I feel it). Maybe we have all discovered something more about ourselves, hopefully! The path has been plainly stated, in your posts, enough so that I could "follow" your "string" by taking it into me, and have had, if only a glimpse, a "knowing" that ALWAYS AND FOREVER CONTINUING TRULY, I AM Thank-you, Lizanne
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Post by lizanne333 on May 16, 2005 10:57:17 GMT -5
Not to awaken old sores, although in the re-reading, I have enjoyed all of the posts, quite a story!
The RA in ISRAEL represents the SUN. In careful consideration of this, I wondered, how could a people worship the sun and think that the sun was the Creator?
This is what occurs to me. What is the one "thing" that is not present upon the planet that is required for physical life to "be"? Everything else is here, is it not? I mean the soil, the water, etc.? The one "thing" missing from the planet which is absolutely necessary is the light of the Sun! Maybe this was understood by those in the past. What else did they understand?
Did they understand that this planet is made up of SUN STUFF? Did they understand that even the life forms upon the Earth-(their physicality) was made up of SUN STUFF, from that blazing ball of "gas" in space? Do not all the elements of which all lifeforms especially us, truly come from that glorious being the SUN?
It appears that this father of local materiality is having some growing pains here lately. Listening to Art Bell last night on Coast to Coast AM, the Sun emitted a major magnetic (flare?), can't remember the terminology here, but it was so major that the coloring of the borealis was so intense and residual viewing occurred in Parumph, Nevada! (the pinkness of the air) This is a time where, as I understand it, the sun should be
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Post by lizanne333 on May 16, 2005 11:21:04 GMT -5
Not to awaken old sores, although in the re-reading, I have enjoyed all of the posts, quite a story!
The RA in ISRAEL represents the SUN. In careful consideration of this, I wondered, how could a people worship the sun and think that the sun was the Creator?
This is what occurs to me. What is the one "thing" that is not present upon the planet that is required for physical life to "be"? Everything else is here, is it not? I mean the soil, the water, etc.? The one "thing" missing from the planet which is absolutely necessary is the light of the Sun! Maybe this was understood by those in the past. What else did they understand?
Did they understand that this planet is made up of SUN STUFF? Did they understand that even the life forms upon the Earth-(their physicality) was made up of SUN STUFF, from that blazing ball of "gas" in space? Do not all the elements of which all lifeforms especially us, truly come from that glorious being the SUN?
It appears that this Father of local materiality is having some growing pains here lately. Listening to Art Bell last night on Coast to Coast AM, the Sun emitted a major magnetic (flare?), can't remember the terminology here, but it was so major that the coloring of the borealis was so intense and residual viewing occurred in Parumph, Nevada! (the pinkness of the air) This is a time where, as I understand it, the sun should be, QUIET, according to science, sort of sleeping, not active. It is causing some major concern.
Well, one thing we can and presumptously so, I guess, is say that whatever the Sun is doing we can't BLAME THIS ONE ON MAN, or can we? I mean if we are drowning in our own "fecal matter" so to speak, and affecting the planet and its' atmosphere, does that in turn affect the Sun? At this point I can't see that. Can you?
Ok, well, I guess I understand that maybe the Egyptians "worshipped the Sun" as the Source of their physicality, but that is not all of the equation, is it?
There is still ISIS and ELOHIM is there not? Let's go to a new thread, if you are interested, and examine ISIS and what it may represent, ok?
Lizanne
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Post by Falion on May 16, 2005 11:33:27 GMT -5
The sun is a more tangilble, logical entity to worship than a man-made "God"..Like you said liz, you can "see" the sun. The Sun does alow, and create life...without it this dimension would not exist..Did you know that if the sun were any bigger or smaller, (on a minute scale) life would not exist ?....The egyptians were more logical than christians in many ways... What was Isis the god Of?
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Post by lizanne333 on May 17, 2005 2:10:38 GMT -5
Falion says:
Falion,
I understand how the people of Today possibly Mistake the understanding of the peoples of the Egyptian times to have worshipped the Sun as the Creator of themselves, and in fact it, appears as though there are "cults" arising today that worship the Sun as the Creator of all things, which I believe is a distortion of what in fact the Egyptians meant when the priest RA had some experience, "realized his immortality", and after his acension?, and over time, the peoples mistook RA as "the god", rather than understanding how it was that he realized his immortality. To me, this is a key issue.
Your post indicates that, and if I understand it correctly by your word usage, you present that the Sun is the Creator of Life, no?
I would like to maintain that the Sun is A/The Source of the physical forms in which life resides. Also, that the sun maintains, and nurtures the physicality of the forms again, the organism, only? in which the spirit/essence resides.
That the Sun Material, or "Sun Stuff" of which this planet is made, is also the "stuff" which is the physical form of man.
However; the spirit of man, is it:
1) The flowering of all of the parts of the physical body's mechanism working together, hence a "by product" of the organism itself.
2) Is the physical body of man a live "shell" in which the Spirit of the Creator resides?
So, sort of at this point, the understanding of the priest RA in his process of realizing his immortality, recognized that the Sun was the Source of the physical material of his body.
Where does the Spirit of man come from? Then we have the two other parts of the equation, the ISIS, and the EL.
I am speculating here, that it is a combination of the understanding of all three parts of the formula: ISRAEL, (a hidden code?) which in "time and space" in a particular era, possibly in each era, the Truth within it is revealed for the purpose of the fulfillment of the IMMORTAL, TRUE CREATOR of our SPIRITS to make HIMSELF known to us, INSIDE OF US, that we may identify our consciousness with HIS and now HIS/OUR Spirit for the purpose that we too, like RA, have available, the choice of "putting on our own immortality". For we know that our physicality grows, matures, and returns to dust to possibly re-form in another star, however, the Spirit within, the Spiritual Consciousness, should we find and "marry our I" to it, (identify with it) now consciously aware of what?.....that we are becoming god?, or is it that we dare to say that we always have been the maximum god energy that the "size" and shape of our spirit can contain?
Does ISIS represent the Source of the Spiritual Aspect of man? This is what I am in need of discovering.
What was one of the forum's subjects?
IT JUST IS?, or is it, IT IS? or is it IT IS WHAT IT IS? or is it IS IS? or is it ISIS?
We shall see, and this again, with your help, we may discover something hidden for thousands of years, or at least not spoken of widely so that all people woud be able to discover this Truth.
Sorry, again for the length here, but am attempting to communicate in a manner where the picture is ABSOLUTELY CLEAR, first for myself, and if correct for others to see, and the ABSOLUTE TRUTH will then become self-evident within each individual, and I maintain that it is the EXACT same TRUTH in each of us, and it is this link of understanding, of reality wherin we truly have the EXPERIENCE of the ONENESS of ourselves with each other, and the ability to "merge" with any thing, such as a tree, an otter, a body of water. Enough! Lizanne
PS For, the faster we are moving the heavier, more dense, we are. Understanding is the KEY -Just to know who is driving, while we are driving, what a help it would be-revised Moody Blues We wave, and we part (particle), as blotter says "winking in and out of focus" We dissolve, and re-materialize, from nano-second to nano-second, we are here and we are there at the same time. Go figure! No, let's understand!, "see" how it works as it is working in you and me.
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Post by Falion on May 17, 2005 17:50:00 GMT -5
iM basically saying that, if one must worship a god , the sun would be a more common-sense diety then a wizard looking guy upon a throne, in cloud land, enclosed in pearly gates...either idea is ridiculous...but the latter is just plain silly.......at least i think so.
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Post by lizanne333 on May 18, 2005 8:56:52 GMT -5
Falion says:
Hello Falion,
Read your blurb by your name, can't copy it here? But it states that we are beyond life and death, and that we are the 'gods'.......
Then I read Scorpio's poem Afterglow again, and now I am perplexed.
I have maintained, and have had some experience that suggested to me, (notice tense) that God, or the Creator is inside of us.
After reading the poem of Scorpio, and pondering, abit, I ask:
Am I wrong? Is it presumptuous of me to suggest that partially awakened in me is all that I need to fulfill all of my hopes, desires, intent?
It also sounds right and feels relieving to reach outside of my being to another Source, that "seems" greater than I am. As I understand the words reflected in me of: Lead me to your afterglow. These words as they settle in my chest, and flow through me indicate to me that in fact I do not have all the answers consciously available to me.
Maybe I am wrong. Maybe I have totally missed the mark here, but must subjugate myself once again to God, and ask forgiveness for having thought even for a minute that I could possibly stand on my own.
I maintained for a long time that you and I have access to all information ever available in the Universe and beyond, and I still feel it is true, BUT, is the information that is within me ACTIVATED, by a GREATER SOURCE than even that which lies latent within us?
Is it activated only when we seek a Being outside of ourselves to reflect a Truth to us, which opens up a new page pre-existent within us upon which the exact same words are written?
I guess I need to know, is there a ONE other than me, that is guiding my growth, my understanding, and revealing the ever expanding Truth to me, from outside of me, given that I know that the only way I know anything is if I feel it inside of me.
So am I mistaking the fact that Truth revealed, only occurs inside of my consciousness, inside of my body, is only because of me?, or is it because of another who is so much further advanced than I, that I must trust to continue to reflect to me the path of His afterglow, that I may follow? In other words, is there a Being Separate from me and you that we are to humbly look to that we may continue to grow?
Submitting is hard! Having submitted in the past to something that was so distorted, that did not promote life in me, but moved to kill life in me.
-Lizanne(fluctuating between, I AM, and I AM NOT, and like Grave, I am everything, and I am nothing, and It is, and it is not)
And so, Falion if you would, after I have read Peter's Tree Work, and contemplating, please go to ISIS Thanks Lizanne
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Post by Falion on May 18, 2005 12:50:26 GMT -5
Dont let the frustration get the best of you...all in good time....my friend..the "other advanced souls" ARE us, but with more experience/lifetimes under their belts...We are learning in this life, and will continue to learn in others, until we no longer need these simulations for spiritual advancement..., then we graduate toooooo........lets say reconnected to the ZEn!, the IS!.....whether a master outside of yourself is wanted, is completely up to you...even if an outside source is created it is still you......
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Post by lizanne333 on May 19, 2005 0:47:18 GMT -5
Falion says:
Hi Falion....
The simulations, what do you mean by that? Do you mean the stories of the Christs- those teachers who walked the Earth?
I have a feel for this, and even write about it, but periodically I seem to "regress" back to dipping into the the stories and become afraid again of the limitations that I struggled so hard to remove myself from.
I understand that even in the vision of Christ or God, that the vision is held inside of me and has a flavor that I add myself. I recognize that I am the creator of my particular vision, but when I become afraid, I look to the peoples of my past and can almost hear their voices in my head of my old ways of looking at things, these people and I are now light years apart. When I fail at accomplishing what I think I should be able to accomplish, then I become afraid, and I look back and wonder, maybe I was wrong to come this way, and as they say "it is evil", but I never fit in their flock anyway, so it is a catch 22.
Thanks so much for the opportunity to discuss this scary point of my journey with you.
-Lizanne
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Post by Falion on May 19, 2005 8:45:57 GMT -5
Hi liz? how are you feeling?....to answer your question...By simulations , im referring to reality...the reason i threw in the long "tooooooo...." is i honestly feel we have more control over our soul then we may think..
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Post by lizanne333 on May 19, 2005 10:18:35 GMT -5
Ok all-I need to become part of a team! It must be private, understand? Is there a private and non hacked location to deciminate info Just me here.........but the vision is complete and I need help and it can not be enacted without a team
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