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Post by Church Lady on Apr 4, 2005 22:52:58 GMT -5
I mean the "vampire" story from "Illusions." Anton Szandor LaVey uses the same analogy in "The Satanic Bible." Could it be...?
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Post by Bluebird on Apr 5, 2005 1:42:41 GMT -5
what's the vampire story?
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Post by lizanne333 on Apr 5, 2005 13:38:00 GMT -5
Oh my God!
"DID RB BORROW FROM THE SATANIC BIBLE......"
I don't believe what I am seeing!
Don't we understand that TRUTH is UNIVERSAL!
DID TRADITIONAL CHRISTIANITY BORROW FROM SORCERY?,
when it taught people that they could BIND UP AND CAST OUT DEMONS?
This is EXACTLY what sorcerers/magicians do! They practice spiritually unenlightened MAGIC!
Don't you KNOW that sorcery only for awhile works?
DO YOU NOT KNOW THAT THE MESSAGE OF THE ONE SAYS:
Recognize that your "belief" in the Devil, invites him into your being and mind; stored in a place within you that is NOT AVAILABLE TO YOUR CONSCIOUS MIND.
That it is a PLACE INSIDE YOU that you deposit all things not understood by you, and UNACCEPTABLE TO YOU.
BECAUSE, of your UNCONSCIOUS knowledge of this THE CONTENTS AND THE EVER INCREASING ENERGY ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONTENTSstored within this OFF LIMITS filing cabinet in your brain;
IT PLAYS ITSELF OUT IN THE WORLD WITHOUT YOUR CONSCIOUS KNOWLEDGE-THROUGH YOU!
May GOD HIMSELF help those who hold such secret compartments in themselves; as they are BLIND to the fact that THEY THEMSELVES are the CREATORS of the DEVIL and are the INSTRUMENT THROUGH WHICH THAT ENERGY ITSELF IS MANIFEST!
May GOD HIMSELF, PROTECT THE ONES THAT ARE THE
RECIPIENTS OF SUCH SIDEWISE ATTACKS FROM THE SEEMINGLY SELF-RIGHTEOUS, BLIND EVILDOERS!
There are SO MANY of YOU.
My fear is that because of the POWER of this hidden EVIL inside of SO MANY PEOPLE; AND LISTEN TO ME CAREFULLY!
THAT A MANIFESTATION IN PHYSICAL FORM WILL APPEAR ENCOMPASSING ALL OF THIS HIDDEN ENERGY IN ALL OF YOU FOR THE PURPOSE OF BRINGING ABOUT THE DESTRUCTION OF THE WORLD AND ITS HOLY ONES BECAUSE OF YOUR BELIEF IN THIS THAT YOU THINK MUST APPEAR-SO THAT GOD WILL DO SUCH AND SUCH............LIKE SAVE YOU FROM THE DESTRUCTION THAT YOU HAVE BROUGHT UPON THE WORLD AND YOURSELVES, BY YOURSELVES!
WAKE UP! While there is STILL TIME AND SPACE!
As a dear friend once stated:
"I hide from no one.." Dwayne, we need you...
Lizanne
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Post by lizanne333 on Apr 5, 2005 14:42:55 GMT -5
Oh my God!
"DID RB BORROW FROM THE SATANIC BIBLE......"
I don't believe what I am seeing!
Don't we understand that TRUTH is UNIVERSAL!
DID TRADITIONAL CHRISTIANITY BORROW FROM SORCERY?,
when it taught people that they could BIND UP AND CAST OUT DEMONS?
This is EXACTLY what sorcerers/magicians do! They practice spiritually unenlightened MAGIC!
Don't you KNOW that sorcery only for awhile works?
DO YOU NOT KNOW THAT THE MESSAGE OF THE ONE SAYS:
Recognize that your "belief" in the Devil, invites him into your being and mind; stored in a place within you that is NOT AVAILABLE TO YOUR CONSCIOUS MIND.
That it is a PLACE INSIDE YOU that you deposit all things not understood by you, and UNACCEPTABLE TO YOU.
BECAUSE, of your UNCONSCIOUS knowledge of this THE CONTENTS AND THE EVER INCREASING ENERGY ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONTENTSstored within this OFF LIMITS filing cabinet in your brain;
IT PLAYS ITSELF OUT IN THE WORLD WITHOUT YOUR CONSCIOUS KNOWLEDGE-THROUGH YOU!
May GOD HIMSELF help those who hold such secret compartments in themselves; as they are BLIND to the fact that THEY THEMSELVES are the CREATORS of the DEVIL and are the INSTRUMENT THROUGH WHICH THAT ENERGY ITSELF IS MANIFEST!
May GOD HIMSELF, PROTECT THE ONES THAT ARE THE
RECIPIENTS OF SUCH SIDEWISE ATTACKS FROM THE SEEMINGLY SELF-RIGHTEOUS, BLIND EVILDOERS!
There are SO MANY of YOU.
My fear is that because of the POWER of this hidden EVIL inside of SO MANY PEOPLE; AND LISTEN TO ME CAREFULLY!
THAT A MANIFESTATION IN PHYSICAL FORM WILL APPEAR ENCOMPASSING ALL OF THIS HIDDEN ENERGY IN ALL OF YOU FOR THE PURPOSE OF BRINGING ABOUT THE DESTRUCTION OF THE WORLD AND ITS HOLY ONES BECAUSE OF YOUR BELIEF IN THIS THAT YOU THINK MUST APPEAR-SO THAT GOD WILL DO SUCH AND SUCH............LIKE SAVE YOU FROM THE DESTRUCTION THAT YOU HAVE BROUGHT UPON THE WORLD AND YOURSELVES, BY YOURSELVES!
Please look into yourselves to see it working in you!
WAKE UP! While there is STILL TIME AND SPACE! to do so.
LEARN TO PRAY LIKE THIS:
Prayer taken from a Tibetan Prayer, slightly altered and translated to a language you can understand, by Lizanne:
HEAVENLY FATHER, THROUGH JESUS CHRIST YOUR SON, PLEASE:
Remove ALL OBSTACLES, OUTER, INNER, AND HIDDEN; That our THOUGHTS may spring forth TRUE, SPONTANEOUSLY!
As a dear friend once stated:
"I hide from no one.." Dwayne, we need you...
Lizanne
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Post by Grave on Apr 6, 2005 5:13:32 GMT -5
I mean the "vampire" story from "Illusions." Anton Szandor LaVey uses the same analogy in "The Satanic Bible." Could it be...? Hello Wise lady, Thank you. Please enlighten me as I have always been confused about this: In the journey we are into, do we need to wonder about the originality of knowledge, or the original lessons that we recieve through it?With your answer, you and I would be enlightened. Grave(Careless)
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Post by Grave on Apr 6, 2005 5:27:42 GMT -5
Right Lizzane Just tell me one thing here... do you mean we should just forget about people who can't help themselves. How would I thank the ones who have brought me here, to you, and everyone here ? I am not clear Grave(really concentrating)
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Post by Bluebird on Apr 6, 2005 5:39:00 GMT -5
Lizanne, if I understood correctly, do you mean that an "evil spirit/force" will physically manifest because of those who believe in the devil? That they will subconsciously create one collectively?
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Post by Grave on Apr 6, 2005 6:29:28 GMT -5
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Post by lizanne333 on Apr 6, 2005 10:00:46 GMT -5
THE GREAT DECEIVING Quickly here, Bluebird and I will go into things more deeply as I have more time.
It starts with the parents.
The parents from their parents who are unawake to how powerful the mind is and for whatever reason need to control the minds of their children, because the children are open mirrors not yet "programmed" that reflect back to the parents- who the parents truly are. If the parent cannot handle seeing who they are they impose upon the child their own image of themselves. They then force the child to sacrifice that precious part of their knowing, spliting off into a separate compartment in their brains, put away from themselves, buried and unavailable to themselves what they "know" to be true. Their "true" identity. They then accept, (because they have to in order to survive in the family, and because their parents are so critically important to them) the parents image of reality. If the parent has divisions, the child studies that very carefully, and develops these same divisions in themselves. Complexity increases as the parent who has found a specific sect of religion that re-inforces his very distorted view of reality, and exposes the child to that same re-inforcement. Since religion is the sealing authority authenticating the parents view of himself and the world; this same view becomes solidified and in re-inforced continually in the child. Depending upon the blind abuse to the child which always seems to be the case in families like this, as the parent continues to struggle to control "new awakenings and new perspectives" that may surface during the child's growth; the discipline by the parent becomes more tyranical and then again this behaviour is experienced and absorbed by the child. All for now, will continue later
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Post by Bluebird on Apr 6, 2005 11:32:05 GMT -5
Lizanne, that all makes sense. However, I don't see the link to the devil's physical manifestation because of collective mind-power....?
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Post by Falion on Apr 6, 2005 12:41:41 GMT -5
Did RB borrow from the satanic bible??? thats SUCh a ridiculous question, just as ridiculous if from the chriStian bible...These texts are only written expressions of spirituality..NOT whole truths...If any text rb borrowed from i would thimk it would be from ZEn teachings..."if" from any...there is going to be similarities in every collection of written moral lesson's undoubtedly, unless an alien Idea and view of spirituality were to manifest.
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Post by lizanne333 on Apr 6, 2005 12:56:54 GMT -5
Bluebird,
Don't fly away, fly away.
It is coming, I have obligations right now, and do not have the time to take it further. However, I promise the continued outline as to how it works.
Lizanne
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Post by Bluebird on Apr 6, 2005 13:53:28 GMT -5
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Post by lizanne333 on Apr 6, 2005 14:15:03 GMT -5
Falion,
Just a moment here, and then I have to fly!
Here is a prime example of a fear based individual who discards any source of information which through the reading therof promises them enlightenment of their current situation. Trust issues arise. They cling for dear life; even to their own destruction to a distorted vision of reality, looking for and assigning "evil" to the truth that lies within any other perspective that would free them, but it is seen with distrust, demonized, and projected out into the world as if it is the voice of God.
It is as if they are caught on the edge of a black hole, and by the very nature of the power of the hole itself, they are unable to break away. They don't see that all they have to do is SPIN that stuck wheel of perspective within them to allow GOD to grab hold of it and adjust it for them. God help them and us. Pray for them/us Lizanne
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Post by lizanne333 on Apr 6, 2005 22:54:33 GMT -5
BLUEBIRD FLY!
Enough has been said! The picture is clear. The Wise One has said, please look to us down here.
Still feathering our nests in the only way that we can, it has been enough; as it is all that we know.
Should you write further, well on some level it is DONE, Harvest not the field until the grain is ripe. It is not my harvest anyway; nor is it my field. They are not my bluebirds so I must take care- not to harm even the smallest of His creatures
The Heavens are quaking, and so is the Earth; the people tribulate within their heart. Sore, but be not afraid. ALL is well. ALL is well.
And now I know to disengage, from some nightmare that seemed real. It is for the sake of the babies lying feathered in the nest, that I retreat from that place on high. Where all things have occurred in another reality, but no longer is it for me to speak to you of such things, It is out of my hands.
My apologies to those who have frightened; and now let me repair to a place that makes better sense.
What has been spoken of earlier is all true, but let's see if we can address it in a way that is less harmful, less damaging, less accusing.
Let's let love, and God, flow through to the suffering.
The mind, by its' very nature will express on some level all of its' contents; whether they are conscious or unconscious.
The most important thing that we can do is familiarize ourselves with ourselves vigilantly.
In fact, Christ in the Gnostic Gospels instructs us to do so.
GNOSTIC GOSPELS-Elaine Pagels pg 53-Gospel of Thomas
"...Thus here again Jesus encourages those who seek by telling them that they already have the internal resources they need to find what they are looking for: "Jesus said, 'If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you.'
Again Jesus states:'The Kingdom of God is inside you, and outside you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will see that it is you are the children of the living Father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty; and it is you who ARE that poverty
Truly, all of the answers we needed to receive God's Enlightenment, were written with the first 250-300 years CE. But Constantine in 325 fell prey to a controlling force of individuals who were having difficulty maintaining "control" over the divisions that were occurring among the teachings at that time. He lent his ear to the more "influential" ones; and following their lead, placed his stamp of approval upon ONLY the books in the current New Testament. BURNED, were the texts, scrolls of ALL other contributions, not understanding their nature, or their value, or their need for that era, or for any FUTURE era.
But thank God, someone buried some of these scrolls in a jar deep in the desert.
They are worth looking into. How could it possibly hurt you to look? I know I was afraid too; until I looked. And oh my! It completed the story. Now all the light necessary to become a whole, undivided, fully integrated human beings is available.
As a result, the Christian Church has evolved forward, not as a WHOLE BODY, (for a part of its' whole was missing), and distortion ensued. Because of the TREMENDOUS AUTHORITY of the Church through the ages, it maintains its' constituents allegiance through fear of falling, or fear of damnation if you look elsewhere.
Well guess what? Heck, that is exactly how my Father controlled me, and caused me to sacrifice what I knew, that he may dictate to me the way things are, because he was afraid to know himself, also.
Sound familiar?
Let us at least consider these things in the light that they are meant.
Is it possible that there are parts of myself that are acting out in various manners without my conscious knowledge?
Is it possible that the Church System has a problem itself, and the nature of the problem is that it keeps me close by admonishing me not to look elsewhere?
Does the Church not know that it need not fear its' destruction, but only transformation; as its constituents become enlightened, the Church becomes enlightened?
Even as Moses, demanded, "Let my people go", does the Church not see the need for the Trailblazer to seek out new understanding; and as a result the people within the Church become enlightened, and hence the Church is enlightened, and then, and then, Christ shall surely come to HIS Temple, first inside the Temple of the individuals; and as a result the Lord does Truly Inhabit His Church.
Make sense? Please ponder. Be slow to condemn.
I pray so.
Truly, with my greatest love, Lizanne
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