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Post by JTwolf on Mar 19, 2005 16:15:27 GMT -5
to me, when you are with the one, there is no end. You continue to learn and grow together. For when you find the one, then you become whole. When you aren't with the one, and you decide that that is the one, then you are shutting out the possibility of new growth and learning. We are all one half of a whole. the one completes us and through that all is possible. Using the tree metaphor, yes you can still aknowledge the whole rest of the forest all the while knowing that the one tree you have found is the one tree for you. Only when that one tree isn't really the one and we have to focus all of our attention on that tree, do we forget that there is a forest around us.
Just what I feel inside when I think on your questions....
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Post by Michelle on Mar 19, 2005 20:08:17 GMT -5
I love the forest/tree analogy. I think we have to listen to our inner voice, that knowing feeling that we get, especially when it comes to romantic partners! It's like being in a maze. Your inner voice is above the maze and can clearly see the right direction you should take. Listen. It often seems that people who have found their soulmate always say they "just knew" he/she was right. They can rarely explain it. Michelle TheMaams.com
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Post by JTwolf on Mar 19, 2005 21:10:22 GMT -5
Very true Michelle. I'm still waiting on mine...I've "settled" more than once, so probably have some karma to settle before she comes into my life....but I keep hoping!! I don't know though, I have been described, by a medium type person, that I am an "astral traveler"......that I will probably always be alone and always moving....it fits, since I was born I have never lived longer than a year in any one location! with the exception of when I was 12 to 14 and now. Have lived in Manitou Springs for the last 4 years and do not believe I am going anywhere again! Well, geographical change, that is. Still have some travel and adventures in this ole bod yet! Have to get to Australia and Africa and Ireland yet! Anyway, whoever and wherever she is, she would defiently have to be a patient sort! ;D
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Post by JTwolf on Mar 19, 2005 21:25:20 GMT -5
Hey Michelle! Just visited theMaams.com.....very kewl! And you have a sis named XT?!! Wow....tell XT hi from JT!! ;D Loved your site and I'm going to get your book fur sure. By the way, XT, I've read Hawking. My curiosity lead me to him!
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Post by Edina on Mar 20, 2005 8:34:19 GMT -5
Sometimes that inner voice can be very deceiving and lead you in the wrong direction. Once I also thought "I knew", but boy was I wrong...
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Post by Bluebird on Mar 20, 2005 10:54:25 GMT -5
I've been thinking about this some more. I think that what matters is what I feel at a certain moment, RIGHT NOW. If RIGHT NOW is connected to everything, to every single moment that ever was or shall be, I cannot go wrong by listening to what my intuition tells me to do RIGHT NOW. Perhaps that same intuition will tell me something else another day? The only way to be sure to learn and develop is to listen, listen, listen, and to act according to one's highest truth. This way nothing is settled for all eternity, and nothing one does can be condemned as wrong.
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Post by JTwolf on Mar 20, 2005 11:29:39 GMT -5
True, if your listening to who I call "The Babbler"....there is an inner voice that is the one on the surface...that's the Babbler. The one that will lead you astray, the one that is confusion. Sometimes right, most times BS! The inner voice that one should listen to is the one deep inside, one has to be calm to hear it....it is your deepest intuition speaking to you. That is that calm inner voice that is speaking. Forgive this analogy/joke, please, but it does make the point of the Babbler and the still inner voice Intuition....."young bull and old bull standing on a hill looking down upon a large herd of cows...young bull full of youth and vigor, jumping up and down says to the old bull "hey, let's run down there and have some fun with a couple of those ladies"...old bull looks over and replies in a slow drawl, "Son, how about we walk down there and have fun with all of em?" (JTwolf probably gonna get face slapped) But it does make the point, at least in my male mind! If we listen to the Babbler, all excited and only for the moment most often times wrong, well, you get the picture....but the old bull, your inner intuition, is always right, it takes the time to figger things out and see to the heart of matters. Did any of this make sense?? Basically, in a nutshell, the way I do it, is right along the lines of what Bluebird describes...... ;D
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Post by Edina on Mar 20, 2005 12:04:11 GMT -5
JT, how do you know if I wasn't listening to my deepest intuition? I didn't give much information, you judge too fast... Well, I can tell you one thing, I know my "Babbler voice" (as you call it) quite well. Thanks anyway.
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Post by JTwolf on Mar 20, 2005 12:33:26 GMT -5
ummmm,,,didn't think I was judging! I'm sorry if you took it that way,,,,,was merely answering or giving info, if you will, based on what I knew.....your right, not much info....but isn't that what this is?? One can only answer based on what one is presented with......I'm sorry if I offended,,,,is/was this a sore subject???
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Post by Altariel on Mar 20, 2005 12:45:02 GMT -5
I think that some life we can live without our soulmates. Why? -> because , it can happen that we need to learn some lesson~ like growth of ourselves, and growth by learning that we are those who initiate our process of growth. Many times I think that some of us don't need any kind of soulmate{in this life}. I'm not saying that I don't believe in soulmate, 'cause I believe.. I'm just trying to describe that we also must learn that we ourselves are enough to reach happyness and to walk on the path of growth. Sure, that some aspects of growth include growth through/with our soulmate{and also growth through looking for our soulmate}. And as Edina wrote~ we learn not only through our soulmates, but through every person(and as Michelle? wrote~also our pets can teach us), if we want so.... I have a lot of soul-friend so to call them, but I feel something special when I meet some persons who are different from me, have different fields of interests-> but as talk with them~my view of world is enlarging...
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Post by Edina on Mar 20, 2005 13:02:34 GMT -5
Like I said earlier in this topic:
Is it possible to find someone, the 'One', who will have the same goals and change in the same directions as you for a lifetime without self-sacrifice?
Isn't it more likely to have many 'soulmates', who'd come with you for parts of this journey, while the goals and changes are the same?
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Post by Edina on Mar 20, 2005 13:06:12 GMT -5
It's ok, don't need to say sorry.
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Post by JTwolf on Mar 20, 2005 13:19:16 GMT -5
hmmmm...isn't some self-sacrifice (in moderation) a gift that we give another that is part of our lives?? Isn't that the ultimate gift that one can give another in this life time?? The gift of yourself, time, energy, e.t.c....?? Totally agreed.....somethings are best learned alone. And until we learn the majority (or even all) of those things that we need to learn alone, then possibly the "soulmate" will not manifest... I would call these people SoulFriends.....I cannot accept a True SoulMATE leaving just because something changes in direction or goal.....a true SoulMATE will change with you because that person is the other part of you. Like your arms, they go with you or you with them, inseperable. You both always have the same goals.....maybe one didn't realize it until the other moved in this or that direction, but once movement is started, they realize, or KNOW, rather, that that is the only direction they ever wanted to go. Because of AND in spite of. They together are a whole....even if the one or both felt whole before joining.....they are more whole than whole after joining....... least aways, that's what I think after a lifetime of ponder!
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Post by Altariel on Mar 20, 2005 13:26:26 GMT -5
Yes, that's what I I wanted to say too. My thoughts dwellt on post what you quoted, but i didn't quote it because I thought that here's everyone keeping that in mind It's more intresting to have many soulmates, but also I think ~ if you find your true soulmate~for whole life~you can experience some other aspects of gowth.. Every growth is welcome... ;D
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Post by Edina on Mar 20, 2005 13:32:39 GMT -5
Same person, but another part? Shouldn't be that your own spirit then? There are no mates 100% alike, one way or the other, one has to sacrifice.
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