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Post by eponine1971 on Jun 26, 2005 19:47:30 GMT -5
Okay, this has been bugging me so I thought I would ask someone here. I love watching this little show on the WB called Everwood. On this one episode, there was this mechanic. He was shy, kept to himself. One day he tells this mother that her son has a dangerous almost deadly disease. Kid seems fine on the outside. But he just knew it. Turns out he was right. Then he tells Ephram that the girl he loves will just love this huge, old green car that he just got. Yup, right about that one. Dr. Abott comes to complain about him giving people medical diagnosis. Mechanic looks at him and says someone in his family is very sick. Turns out his sister is HIV positive. No one knew but her. Andy comes to talk to him. The mechanic just knows things. Had to leave a few towns because droves of people would just crowd around him and ask him to solve their problems.
Hmm, who does that remind you of? Could it be Donald Shimoda? I was wondering if this was an intentional likeness, or if the universe is trying to teach Illusions on a massive scale. Have any of you seen this one?
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Post by richardish on Jun 26, 2005 20:53:31 GMT -5
I have'nt seen it yet, but I will definately watch for that one. Thats sounds cool...I think?
As long as they are'nt ripping anybody off
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Post by Bluebird on Jun 27, 2005 1:38:56 GMT -5
I keep thinking of the message in Illusions: everyone can be a savior, and no savior needs to teach anyone anything. Why does this person tell people secret truths that he knows, truths that can shake their worlds? Why not let them find out in their own time? What does he get out of it? Respect? Awe? Is it only for egoism, or does it serve a good purpose? Note: I didn't see the show  Somehow, keeping quiet about what you know and telling when someone asks sounds more and more wise to me. It's taken me years of pondering, because when I first read Illusions I could not understand why Shimoda wouldn't preach his wonderful message (if you don't count the killing attempts and crowds) - wouldn't the greater outcome be good in the end, and people enlightened? Slowly I've began realizing that everyone learns at his/her own pace. Sure, you can give someone a wakeup call, but not everyone needs a wakeup call *just from you*. |
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Post by wynsong on Jun 27, 2005 10:40:16 GMT -5
Note: I didn't see the show Somehow, keeping quiet about what you know and telling when someone asks sounds more and more wise to me. It's taken me years of pondering, because when I first read Illusions I could not understand why Shimoda wouldn't preach his wonderful message (if you don't count the killing attempts and crowds) - wouldn't the greater outcome be good in the end, and people enlightened? Slowly I've began realizing that everyone learns at his/her own pace. Sure, you can give someone a wakeup call, but not everyone needs a wakeup call *just from you*. I also haven't seen that, or very many of the episodes...but my experience rings with Bluebird's... I ponder the paradox that I am with a person that doesn't know or see something I am seeing about them...and yet they are seeing me...so am I supposed to tell them. I have "solved" it thus far, but being a bit oblique. Telling them my 'seeing' as a story of my own...or nudging a word they used with a little more emphasis after they have retreated from it....if they don't pick up on the nudge or the story, I let it go...but I often wonder if I am doing the "right" thing, and then I turn it over to process or spirit, by reminding myself they will meet someone else to twig them to their path if they are meant to, or want to walk consciously. I don't think my "teachers" got through to me at the levels they might have see available to me...I had to follow their tweaking my own way, and still do. |
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Post by eponine1971 on Jun 27, 2005 12:14:26 GMT -5
In the episode, the mechanic sees a lot of things he doesn't say. He did not want to be noticed. But when a child might die if he didn't get the care he needed, he felt compelled to say what he knew. It does save the childs life. Ephram was embarrassed about his car. He's a teenager and the car was really kind of beat up on the outside but ran well. I think the mechanic just wanted to ease his mind a little. It was a quiet exchange that was really sweet. Anyway, that's why he said what he did.
If memory serves me correctly, Shimoda didn't have a problem with teaching. He began trying to tell the people the truth that he knew. What bothered him was that the people didn't want to listen. They never accepted that they were part of the Is as well. They never accepted that if they wanted happiness, all they had to do will it to happen. People will suffer for their God before they'll be happy for Him. That was what upset Shimoda and why he walked away from all that.
I see more of the author in Shimoda than in Richard's namesake character. I read those lines and could see the frustration Bach felt in how he was perceived and 'worshiped' by his readers. Readers who want only answers for their lives without looking inward to find them. I suppose it's a natural reaction. It's the same reason we pull out a calculater instead of doing the equation in our heads. We could arrive at the same conclusion but it would take longer. Why not just ask someone who already knows the answer. The problem with that is we are not all mathmatical equations. And I've come to realize that Bach may have the right answers for himself. But they are not necessarily the right ones for me. So if he reads these posts, if someone clues him in as to which ones have messeges for him specifically, then I would want him to know this. You're not my calculator, my answer man. When I read Illusions, I don't look for the answers to the universe. I read it to remind myself that I have the answers myself. It took me a couple of times to realize that. But at last, that lesson was learned.
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