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Post by milena on Jan 31, 2002 5:51:20 GMT -5
I was lying awake last night putting the days events into boxes when I thought (thank you just-before-I go-to sleep-idea-fairy) that maybe the reason that most of us put Illusions as our choice of favourite RB book was because it contained the easiest to get at ideas. It is laid out in such a way that although the thoughts/feelings/ideas are challenging they are also the most user friendly. Maybe the other books don´t rank as high for some of us (me included) because we have to work harder at finding the bits that are pertenant to us and there are no easy ´sound bites´to get hold of. Illusions is full of maxims that we can commit to memory and that make understanding this set of illusions each of us call life easier. Just a thought!
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Post by LL on Jan 31, 2002 11:25:59 GMT -5
I'll agree with that.
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Post by Horace on Jan 31, 2002 20:35:54 GMT -5
That's true, they are well presented, I'd be inclined to say the ideas are also more profound than in the other books.
"You seek problems because you need their gifts." "The mark of your ignorance is the depth of your belief in injustice and tragedy." Every person, all the events of your life, are there because you have drawn them there." Phenomenal...
As I recall the idea(s) of Running from Safety is also pretty up there - but didnt enjoy the read so much. I might have another read of it.
Bridge was a tear jurker. Probably had the biggest emotional response.
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Post by shvechikova on Feb 1, 2002 16:48:32 GMT -5
I like Bach's creation as it's brainstorming. After reading you feellike creating something. They motivate my creation. They make you believe in good. It's difficult to perceive people. Everything and everybody look so possible when in reality it isn't. I waish all people were as frank and open like Bach. It'd make communication and understanding more simple.
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Post by blackrose on Feb 12, 2002 23:16:19 GMT -5
i agree. the special thing about Bach is that he is able to express relatively simple ideas in a streightforward way. he does not try to impress anybody, he just puts his thoughts down on paper. one is almost guaranteed to walk away from any one of his books with some sort of lesson.
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Post by milena on Feb 13, 2002 7:01:19 GMT -5
Blackrose: only if you choose to listen and learn Nothing is guaranteed only that we see,do,feeland learn only what we have chosen to.
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Post by LCoontz on Feb 20, 2002 21:39:21 GMT -5
[quote author=blackrose link=board=RBach;num=1012474281;start=0#4 date=02/12/02 at 23:16:19one is almost guaranteed to walk away from any one of his books with some sort of lesson.[/quote] I couldn't agree more. The best part of all is that he allows his readers to find their OWN lessons
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Post by milena on Feb 21, 2002 4:53:05 GMT -5
Is that not true of any author no matter what the publication? Each reader because of their individuality will learn (if they choose to) differrent lessons from the same text. So any text can hold a resonance for the reader only by the virtue of the reader knowing what they are looking for and why they have turned to that particular text at that particular time.
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Post by blackrose on Feb 24, 2002 14:24:31 GMT -5
hmmm...that's a good point
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Post by flyboy1 on Mar 3, 2002 2:50:33 GMT -5
The thing that I liked about Illusions is that the first part of the book is hand written on lined paper with oily fingerprints.
True. Richard has always been pretty straight foward. I remember the second time that I met him...he was changing the bungee cord on the left wheel of his 1929 Detroit Parks biplane. He was always a hands-on type of fellow.
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Post by evolvetrinity@hotmail.com on May 9, 2002 10:44:48 GMT -5
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Post by evolvetrinity@hotmail.com on May 9, 2002 10:46:24 GMT -5
We have the answers to your questions just ask. -Source
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Post by ray on May 17, 2002 14:51:23 GMT -5
yes very true!
not everyone has the ability to make it easy!
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Post by milena on May 20, 2002 5:01:33 GMT -5
I disagree everone has the ability to do everything...its whether we choose to or not and whether or not we chose this life time to learn or use those abilities.
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Post by rokclmr on May 20, 2002 11:37:19 GMT -5
"everone has the ability to do everything...its whether we choose to or not and whether or not we chose this life time to learn or use those abilities. " Being new to this track of thought, and this discussion group, these statements may have already been made... and, if so, I humbly apologize. However, I also agree with Milena's approach to Ray's statement. RB's quote, "Argue for your limitations, and sure enough, they're yours." would best sum this up. (Isn't he great at that?) One can stand on the cliff, and look down at the abyss, know they want to go to into the abyss, but will they? If one says, "I can't swim, therefore I can't leave this cliff.", then one has chosen a path, based on their perception of their illusion of their limitations. Once that person accepts, though, that their limitation really is an illusion, they are free to jump off the cliff, and into the abyss. The next thought from Ray: "not everyone has the ability to make it easy! " If it were easy, would it truly be worth doing? IMHO, probably not. No one ever hands you a plum in this world... ever. You must strive to achieve that which you desire, and, upon completion of that work, imagine the satisfaction of that accomplishment! Again, RB: "You are never given a wish without being given the power to make it true. You may have to work for it, however." Words are sometimes much easier than actions. And, accepting illusions... those may be the hardest walls to crumble. Enuff said. Rokclmr
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