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Post by lizanne333 on Apr 4, 2005 2:04:57 GMT -5
The perception of the viewer is not the intent of the author's manifested work.
The intent of the author is to provide as pure a "picture" of his concept or experience in a manner as to directly transmit that pure experiencial impact to the viewer.
If one has a distorted view of life; though they may see beauty in the picture transmitted to him by the author; the conclusions drawn from the information viewed will be distorted.
All the artist can do is put his heart and soul into his work and hope the viewer gains some understanding of the author's experience projected through his work.
Unfortunately, dramatic distortion and limitations occur in the perceiver all the time.
What a profound sadness the purveyer experiences when one cannot receive the pure intent of the work in a similiar essence as it was created.
But this too will change........
"Push the valve down here, and the music goes round and round, whoa-o-o-o-o, and it comes out here."
Lizanne (been there done it, hopefully won't happen no more)
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Post by Grave on Apr 4, 2005 9:35:31 GMT -5
All the artist can do is put his heart and soul into his work Good thing But they said that I am an artist on this earth,that's good, and I put my heart and soul into my work,that's bad.. Why did they say so? Grave(From the inner council)
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Post by Grave on Apr 4, 2005 9:37:19 GMT -5
Lizanne (been there done it, hopefully won't happen no more) Until the fear is over .. can I say "its over"? Grave(it doesn't let me live)
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Post by eponine1971 on Apr 4, 2005 23:47:23 GMT -5
Have you ever had a moment in time Stand still? Where the touch of a hand, The feel of a caress Made the world turn slower, The minute pause longer? Have you ever looked into the eyes Of a soul? And in the heart of that soul found Your eternity? And in the wonder of that someone Found yourself? As when the two ends of a circle At last connect.
By Stacey L. Gray TEXTTEXT
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Post by lizanne333 on Apr 5, 2005 12:16:06 GMT -5
Grave,
Coinciding with "OUR" hearing of the always sounding "Last Trumpet", we ARE fearless, we ARE empowered, we ARE ascended.
And we are NOW CONSCIOUSLY AWARE of the world we have come from, and AWARE that we are in a NEW WORLD, from which we can (detached, disentangled) NOW view the world from which we came, and "SEE" the struoggle and the destruction of those "WHO ARE ONLY DESTROYING THEMSELVES" ....and your heart once burdened from the effects of your entanglement with them as one of them, now must turn away, leaving them to their own battles, as NOW a new Being in a New World, you have NEW lessons to learn.
Turn away, oh won't you turn away, please!, from those, who refuse to "see"; whose burden you have carried in your heart for so long, killing you through the lending of "yourself" to them, because of your love for the ONE-ness that we want everyone to be a part of.
It is a great sadness, in you at this point, but turn your face to ME, and see what I have in store for you.
Close your eyes, close your eyes, and forget about their/your suffering tonight.
Lizanne
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Post by Grave on Apr 6, 2005 1:31:57 GMT -5
Grave, ..... but turn your face to ME, and see what I have in store for you.
Lizanne My dear Lizzane, I'd say something that you once said to me: "I trust you" Grave(looking at you)
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Post by Grave on Apr 6, 2005 1:33:55 GMT -5
Are you Hope that I often try not to imagine ?
Grave(with a dry petal)
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Post by Grave on Apr 6, 2005 1:40:17 GMT -5
It would 11 am there when I'd forget about things tonight ;D
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Post by lizanne333 on Apr 6, 2005 1:54:11 GMT -5
Good Morning Grave,
Yes, it is late here.
Have just received an interesting emai.
Did you by chance read re: Satanic Bible?
Awaiting for awhile, It is 11:56 pm here
Lizanne
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Post by Grave on Apr 6, 2005 7:25:19 GMT -5
Yes, i did
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Post by Samir on Apr 10, 2005 1:57:40 GMT -5
I'm not a poet. I am in business where I build processes that accomplish small tasks that go on to achieve larger business goals.
Most companies in my industry have similar business goals and follow a similar route to get there.
While starting this thread I wanted to attempt the building of a process to achieve the ideal goal of love that Richard has defined. Say, something on the lines of:
To achieve true love, first learn to build a great relationship.
- Be honest about your feelings (remember what Richard said: what happens to us when we ourselves start believing the lies we invent for others? ) When we can forget being honest to ourselves, we can find it very difficult to be honest to our partner. Being honest is the first step and a very difficult step. - It's by being in a relationship that we can learn about building a great relationship, not by looking endlessly for a perfect partner. I am not perfect, I should not expect my partner to be perfect too. - I read a quote, something on the lines of: Marriage is an unequal partnership. I have to put in 60% and my partner 40%. - It's tough in a relationship because the situation is very dynamic. The two people involved keep changing. Love for a relationship is very different from love for an interest. If you love flying, you can over a period of time perfect flying because the rules remain the same. Rules in a relationship have to keep changing as the two people grow and change.
I'm sure this list can go on and on.
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Post by Grave on Apr 10, 2005 2:38:03 GMT -5
Achieve business..yes
Achieve Love...?
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Post by Samir on Apr 11, 2005 0:28:05 GMT -5
Grave,
Achieve (an emotional state of being in) love... (also) yes.
I believe we have to grow in love (not fall in love). It's not love when you experience ecstasy initially which goes away or reduces with time. When the feeling of ecstasy increases with time, that's when you know that you are in love. When all the initial excitement fizzles of and you get to see the real person in your partner and still like her/him and want to do things for her/him, that's when I think a person is in love.
It's when you see love in this way, that the need to do a few things right becomes necessary to make sure that it's not you who is messing up his chances of achieving (the state of) true love. That's why being honest, willingness to give it your best shot, and accepting change in the dynamics of a relationship are important few things in the process of achieving the state of true love.
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Post by Grave on Apr 11, 2005 3:07:47 GMT -5
Hello Samir,
thank you for you words.
Yes indeed, we have to grow in love. I now understand of what you mean by "achievement" here..(transforming)
Grave
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Post by eponine1971 on Apr 11, 2005 7:26:40 GMT -5
As I prepare to begin my life with someone new I can't help but examine how this time is so much different from any other Love in my life. I don't doubt that I was in Love before. I don't doubt that I fully expected it to last my life. I have old writing to remind me of that. But what makes this time different is not the perfections but rather the flaws in each of us. I think a lasting Love comes from understanding strengths and weaknesses of each other. I think it happens with acceptance comes. We joke about how different we are. But in those differences I see a comadability that makes it right. All that would mean nothing if the accecptance did not include the acceptance of oneself.
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