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Post by Monia on Apr 20, 2005 10:44:13 GMT -5
And every time we find a new person better than before, because we have learnt out of experience... At each phase of life, when someone enters our world.. we tend to think that he/she is the perfect one. Our definations are limited, and may be these things happen because each soul that you draw near, inturn prepares you for the real Person you are actually suppose to meet... Trust me on this.... You know..? Never been with anybody else in my Life for I've always *known* (since I was really a baby) there would be *THE ONE* I still didn't know but I would have meet one day in my Life..believe me..a sensation so strongly radicated in me that I could't explain.. Never accepted to go down to compromises but searching only for One True Love. That I recognise when I found it. ======================================== When it all about "You" then it lets see, this means He stands after you. ======================================== mhh..I don't pretend to be perfect. I only would like to be able to Love in a whole way.. So dear Monia, You have answered your own questions... this is why you want to be with him. ======================================== And its our nature to be in joy whatever way. ======================================== YES my dear friend.. this is love.... and(but) Love is even "MORE" So.. At least Grave, what do you think about me? that this is Love like youy close your post or that mine is an egoist form of Love? Thanks so much for ypour support and your point of view!! Love to you too.. Monia Grave (With Gifts) [/b] [/i][/quote]
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Post by lizanne333 on Apr 20, 2005 18:23:29 GMT -5
Grave? says to Monia,
Let me put it a different way, ok?
OUR EXPERIENCES ARE LIMITED BY OUR DEFINITIONS!
Not the other way around!
Limitations by their very nature are fed by our thought processes. First, we are taught that something is so. Depending upon the authoritative nature of the teaching, and how often the teaching has been "drummed" into us, re-inforcing it, when solidified, we then take up the banner ourselves in our thought processes, unawake, unaware that this is in fact what we are doing, when we are doing it! In fact, most of the time we are not even aware of our thought processes, and how they limit us.
"Seeing"this process playing out in our lives, "watching it", understanding it, ultimately has the power within it to:
FREE OURSELVES FROM IT!
Use that precious observer in us all to watch our processes unfold. Don't "do" anything, certainly, do not resist it, don't beat yourselves up over it. Just watch it and let it be.
To the one who "sits", drinks tea, and fishes, you know of these things. In other words, when the pain of the illusion of separation from self, ( i.e. love's inaccessibility to self) arises in you, do not run for cover. Do not distract yourselves. This is the Gift of God here. The splendid opportunity to "observe" what is NOT TRUE (limitation, illusion), to allow the "pain" to pass through you, paving the way for a new perspective to present itself to you.
And Believe Me! It does come, every time!!!!!!! So, I best practice what I preach here!
And yes, it hurts like a son of a gun!!!!! But know this; it is only the shedding of another layer of the false self (illusion) freeing up our ability to 1)love ourselves a little bit more and 2) as a result, frees up our ability for that love for yourself to spill over loving more and more of other things and other people.
There is no one who needs to learn this more than I do!!!!!
For truly, and again, it is only as we love ourselves that in turn we are able to love al l things.
So, Thank-God, it is a win-win situation. You get all the love you have ever needed, delivered by the God in you to you, and as a result you "get to love" everybody else as a result.
It is a rough one, and I call this the dying to self, you know the peeling back of the layers of the lotus, growing ever closer to self-realization, and oneness, and al of that incredible life of which we are a part of AND parcel to.
Monia, I have been considering you here for awhile. It was only in viewing a "distortion" of what is so, that I have been able to deliver you this.
I know what it feels like to feel not able to access the feeling of love in my experience when I "want" to.
And I too, feel the pain of that inaccessibility, and have also felt guilty, apathetic, egoist, because another has been able to give me love, and I too, have enjoyed their company, but have been unable to love back in the true sense that I want to be able to, because of this huge block, inaccessibility to my own love.
Experiencing loving feelings, just a little more each day!
Lizanne
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Post by Monia on Apr 21, 2005 3:17:28 GMT -5
Thanks so much Lizanne to tell your past situation so similar to mine. Somethimes I feel people can't undertand me, my pain and frustration. They just say"How can you say you love him and then say you don't feel in peace and you have to struggle so much?" and it's absolutely normal to think like that. So I'm glat to you for having shared your "compassion" and understanding. Last evening in my bed I was feeling so much struggle and pain for my situation. I really feel I've lost my way to Home. Home is peace for me. It Is the "place" you feel one with yourself and your Life.And your Love. This morning I woke up tired but like I had put down my pain with my suffrance. And even if it came back to me again, like a so intimate friend of mine, just for a while I saw again what does really mean Love and saw again the dimension I'm trying to reach..It's difficult to express this.. but It was like I really feel again this "place" inside of me where I and my boy are waiting for us to come ..in the dimension of Love. Much Love to you . Have a great day, today too
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Post by Grave on Apr 21, 2005 6:22:33 GMT -5
Hi Monia, Thanks very much to you too. It takes a lot of courage to share things, and trust the ones you don't really know.
Your kind love might have some traces of egoism, but as you say and believe it to be SO TRUE, it might not be a good idea to associate your kind Love ...with Ego.
As you said you have been waiting FOR THE ONE all your life and never been ...ummm.. really out there.... so it could be quite natural that you seriously thought that the first man to reach out for you IS THE ONE.
Just take time out...and think..... May be the thing that you term as "Ego" in you is Simply a "REACTION OUT OF FEAR to Lose"
Then, Are you really in Love (not just love but your kind of Love)?
Grave (nothing really ever)
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Post by Monia on Apr 21, 2005 8:12:19 GMT -5
Hi Monia, Thanks very much to you too. It takes a lot of courage to share things, and trust the ones you don't really know. Your kind love might have some traces of egoism, but as you say and believe it to be SO TRUE, it might not be a good idea to associate your kind Love ...with Ego. As you said you have been waiting FOR THE ONE all your life and never been ...ummm.. really out there.... so it could be quite natural that you seriously thought that the first man to reach out for you IS THE ONE. Just take time out...and think..... May be the thing that you term as "Ego" in you is Simply a "REACTION OUT OF FEAR to Lose" Then, Are you really in Love (not just love but your kind of Love)? Grave (nothing really ever) *** Hi Grave.. as told before I didn't stay with any boy before my actual because somehow I 've always had in me a certain kind of "idea" (="inner concept", absolutely not rational) of my Soulmate. I knew one day in the future somehow I would have "recognized" him. And now I can say for sure I 've met him. I've ever been single not because no one looked at me..but simply because I didn't found my "one". And as said before..Love is to me such a Sacre thing to come down to compromises. I'm not afraid to be *alone* for the rest of my Life. I've been without a boy for many years. I would be alone again I'm not afraid to be without a boy. I'm afraid to rest alone after having meet my Soulmate. to lose it not to be alone.. you see..there's a big difference. Yeah..maybe what I call egoism is my fear to lose..BUT TO LOSE no one like another. Not the fear to be alone again. What do you mean with:" Then, Are you really in Love (not just love but your kind of Love)?" I really do think. probably all my problems have this source: probably I make confusion between FALL in LOVE and LOVE. Anyway.. I would like to share with you all what happened 30 minutes ago..by coming back at work.. what about if you just close your mobile after a very desperate call with your-soulmate-you-are-just-losing cause of your being so far -you don't know WHERE... take the bus and catch with your eyes a message in a big poster on the road.. "BE WHAT YOU REALLY ARE" and the some meters later...another big poster.."DON'T BE AFRAID".. I'm still wordless..
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Post by lizanne333 on Apr 21, 2005 8:46:53 GMT -5
LOOKIN LOOKIN FOR A HEART OF GOLD LOOKIN LOOKIN AND I'M GROWING OLD BEEN A MINER FOR A HEART OF GOLD! AM I GROWIN OLD -Young
DELIVER ME OUT OF MY MADNESS. DELIVER ME OUT OF MY SADNESS ALL OF MY LIFE I HAVE BEEN SEARCHING FOR SOMEONE JUST LIKE YOU NOW THAT YOURE HERE, NOW THAT I'VE FOUND YOU.........I KNOW YOU ARE THE ONE TO SEE ME THROUGH DELIVER ME PLEASE
I have a broken wing, have suffered terribly I have a heart so pure, but when in physical form, well, you....you know
I have a work that must be accomplished I must help people see.......and soon! But I need your help, cause I can't do it alone My flame must raise along with yours Cause I am failing, and time seems to be running out
Thought it was that I was to do it alone, that I had to find my own way. Now I know that I have needed one to gently hold me and say, I understand you, and see the wounds inflicted upon your body and soul.
Will you not take me out of the hell that has been my own. I have been on HIGH, a dimension accessed through myself. . and I know what I must bring here to the planet through my body through my soul.
But I need a healing, the kind I can't deliver on my own Will you come to me and let me know everything is all right? For I am afraid. I am so afraid.
But maybe with your light, I can trust. Trusting is so hard, 'cause my body has been abused. i've been exploited and my awards circumvented and yet I have come this far
If not for awhile take this trout out of the water leave your hook behind. Gently, ever so gently raise me into a new universe where there is nothing but love. OH PLEASE! WON'T YOU DELIVER ME!
Lizanne
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Post by Monia on Apr 21, 2005 9:15:17 GMT -5
LOOKIN LOOKIN FOR A HEART OF GOLD LOOKIN LOOKIN AND I'M GROWING OLD BEEN A MINER FOR A HEART OF GOLD! AM I GROWIN OLD -Young
DELIVER ME OUT OF MY MADNESS. DELIVER ME OUT OF MY SADNESS ALL OF MY LIFE I HAVE BEEN SEARCHING FOR SOMEONE JUST LIKE YOU NOW THAT YOURE HERE, NOW THAT I'VE FOUND YOU.........I KNOW YOU ARE THE ONE TO SEE ME THROUGH DELIVER ME PLEASE
I have a broken wing, have suffered terribly I have a heart so pure, but when in physical form, well, you....you know
I have a work that must be accomplished I must help people see.......and soon! But I need your help, cause I can't do it alone My flame must raise along with yours Cause I am failing, and time seems to be running out
Thought it was that I was to do it alone, that I had to find my own way. Now I know that I have needed one to gently hold me and say, I understand you, and see the wounds inflicted upon your body and soul.
Will you not take me out of the hell that has been my own. I have been on HIGH, a dimension accessed through myself. . and I know what I must bring here to the planet through my body through my soul.
But I need a healing, the kind I can't deliver on my own Will you come to me and let me know everything is all right? For I am afraid. I am so afraid.
But maybe with your light, I can trust. Trusting is so hard, 'cause my body has been abused. i've been exploited and my awards circumvented and yet I have come this far
If not for awhile take this trout out of the water leave your hook behind. Gently, ever so gently raise me into a new universe where there is nothing but love.OH PLEASE! WON'T YOU DELIVER ME! Lizanne Lizanne..and what about this? this is beautiful.. by reading some tiers went out..'cause it' s seem too much this words are mine..
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Post by lizanne333 on Apr 21, 2005 9:20:19 GMT -5
Monia,
Whaddya think?
Could it Be?
Lizanne
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Post by Monia on Apr 21, 2005 9:27:22 GMT -5
Monia, Whaddya think? Could it Be? Lizanne What do your refer to? I've posted so much here..
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Post by lizanne333 on Apr 21, 2005 9:37:24 GMT -5
Monia, well silly,
what do you think?
Tell me about the basement Tell me about the feeling of being locked in a plexiglass cube where you view life from, but can't access the oneness of feeling in you.
The lack of the feeling of immediacy, between the touch and it's essence.
The ONENESS that possibly can only be delivered by two
Let's do the math here. 1+1=3
Lizanne
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Post by lizanne333 on Apr 21, 2005 10:03:08 GMT -5
Monia,
Lizanne says:
The ONENESS that possibly can only be delivered by two.
ALL OF MY LIFE I HAVE BEEN HIDING, WAITING JUST FOR SOMEONE JUST LIKE YOU
NOW THAT YOU'RE HERE, NOW THAT YOU'VE FOUND ME I KNOW THAT YOU'RE THE ONE TO SEE ME THROUGH WON'T YOU DELIVER ME
"Knowing me, knowing you (aha) there is nothing we can do"
Sitting here, I can't tell the difference between you and me. Scary
Strummin' my face with his fingers Readin' my life with his song Killing me softly with his words Killing me softly, with his words All of my whole life with his song Killing me softly.
Dunno who?
Is it me, is it you? Are we two flames joined as One? Maybe it's just my magination, and as such
For a time only, not determined by you or me, Could it be, joined forces our souls can complete the picture your words can convey
That talent given you, joined in soul with the vision from on High, to bring this Planet into the light, for people are only destroying themselves, and it needent be,
Maybe, just maybe we're the ONE to bring the Light from above.
But it's imagination I know, for there is only me here and you here, but I am both you and me here. Sad, tragic, but true.
So then my friend if it is not YOU, but only me, then lean that ship in the water on its' side to the greatest of her ability, in absolute perfection.
Ressurect Blotter, Matai.....Do they need to separate? For Matai needs Blotter as much as Blotter needs Matai? Your soulmate is before you, but neither you nor I can "see"
What is be4for our very eyes.
Lizanne
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Post by Monia on Apr 21, 2005 10:20:36 GMT -5
Monia, well silly, what do you think? Tell me about the basement Tell me about the feeling of being locked in a plexiglass cube where you view life from, but can't access the oneness of feeling in you. The lack of the feeling of immediacy, between the touch and it's essence. The ONENESS that possibly can only be delivered by two Let's do the math here. 1+1=3 Lizanne
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Post by Monia on Apr 21, 2005 10:28:49 GMT -5
really get confused now Lizanne.. I really understand what does living under a plexiglas cube mean. So your words are mine too. I can't understand well english I said..so I really have difficult interpreting your point of view. I'm sorry. I only hope you're not ironic to me.
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Post by lizanne333 on Apr 21, 2005 11:50:26 GMT -5
Dear Monia,
Monia says:
I really understand what does living under a plexiglas cube mean. So your words are mine too.
I can't understand well english I said..so I really have difficult interpreting your point of view. I'm sorry. I only hope you're not ironic to me.
It is not about my point of view. "Sit" with it for a time, let it go, and it will come to you. Gues it is just one of those futuristic understandings that unfold within us, within time and space. Thank God for time and space to understand.
Lizanne
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Post by Monia on May 6, 2005 8:23:08 GMT -5
Hi all guys! How are you? Enjoying spring like I'm doing? Here the Sun shines. This evening I'm going to leave my town again to join my boy 450 Km far from me. Hoping *we* can survive to MY crisis (for me to being lost on the way of our story, not feeling anymore *our* dimensione made by him+me, our ONENESS), hoping I can find the way.. not to lose him. You know friends.. One sentence in a Mr. Bach's Book is the sentence containing my condition : " if a stranger would have come and threated our union I tryed with all my possibility to send him to hell. But now..the enemy was interior..was in me". At the moment I'm in this condition. I'm struggling against what is in me which is compromising seriously what is the most dear "thing" I have. Hoping the Sun will shine again on *US* for all the inconditioned Love and Care we felt and which is immortal in Spirit. Love, Monia
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