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Post by Grave on Mar 25, 2005 0:56:38 GMT -5
"Sacrifise" Would I even notice my sacrifise if I am in love? Up till now I believe, if I notice that I have sacrifised, I am not in love. (Impractical-yes, but is it a lie, isn't this truth even if its not possible?) Grave(stormy out there)
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Post by JTwolf on Mar 25, 2005 9:20:38 GMT -5
A TRUTH!! This is a key that our friend Grave is quoting......NO, you will not notice the sacrifice if you are truely in love....for it will be no sacrifice! There is no such thing as SACRIFICE if you are truely in love. Jesus, when he went to the cross, did not call it SACRIFICE, only MAN called it sacrifise, for we do not understand true and perfect LOVE. To Jesus, it was out of perfect LOVE...no sacrifise, it was what was for those he LOVED.
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Post by Edina on Mar 25, 2005 10:07:11 GMT -5
I'll let you know. First though, I'll have to find someone who's willing to take the same road. ;D What if my future partner will want the same? Would that make me selfish? Communicating? Yes. Respecting each other's wishes? Only to a certain extent, and only IF it doesn't require any sacrifices. ;D
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Post by Edina on Mar 25, 2005 10:30:53 GMT -5
I can only speak for myself, and I know, *I* would. There are many ways to get intoxicated, while not noticing the consequences (results of what you've sacrificed in the meantime), but it's never a lasting state. This also goes for love.
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Post by JTwolf on Mar 27, 2005 10:03:47 GMT -5
I can only say that in a relationship with your soulmate...or any mate for that matter, one cannot be so selfish that one wouldn't want the best for their partner. Neither can one be so unselfish, that they are being used....but if that is the case, they are not with their soulmate......I don't know how to make it anymore clear, when one is with their true soulmate, then nothing else matters anymore. All this speculation, worrying about selfish or not, sacrifising or not, e.t.c....all that ceases to be. Plain and very simple. Edina, you will know when it happens. I hope we are still around when it does. I'd be very interested in seeing your reactions and new truths and perceptions! Happy Easter all....I hope you all a peaceful day.
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Post by Grave on Mar 28, 2005 2:31:16 GMT -5
So? Whats the conclusion?
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Post by JTwolf on Mar 28, 2005 10:11:00 GMT -5
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Post by Thinker on Mar 29, 2005 6:49:23 GMT -5
What if my future partner will want the same? Would that make me selfish? No, because you're ASKING... What if your future partner will want the same?That already makes it two-way traffic, because you're taking your future partner into consideration. It will be one-way traffic if you say My partner will only be my partner if he wants the same as I do.
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Post by Edina on Mar 30, 2005 9:13:49 GMT -5
Exactly. However it's still one-way as we'd want the same (have same goals) without saying "if", which would be constraining him to do something, what I call sacrifice.
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Post by Edina on Mar 30, 2005 9:21:55 GMT -5
I'm not sure if I want it to happen that way. As I don't believe in having a "soul-mate" per se. If you haven't noticed, it's only a theory to me.
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Post by Grave on Mar 31, 2005 4:58:17 GMT -5
I am glad to read this. I hope love should be everlasting Edina. But I really don't know... Grave(Love's been a my weak subject )
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Post by lizanne333 on Mar 31, 2005 9:07:32 GMT -5
Funny,
I was once told by a wise old man that humanity likes to mix oil and water when it comes to relationships.
I didn't believe him, and now I realize it was more like I didn't understand him.
Upon reading posts on this subject, here's my two sense.
A soul mate is the quality/content of the spirit itself within the organism it masquerades as.
This same/similar quality/content can be found "compatible" among multitudinous masquerading organisms, both male and female, and who knows, pets too.
We mistake, as my friend indicated, sexuality and compatibility of relationships with the purpose of a soulmate.
A soulmate physically comes and goes in and out of your lives from time to time, sometimes you set up house, but invariably, by its' very nature, it or you must move on.
My friend suggested that, as in the days of old, that marriages be researched out via genetic information and hopefully some sexual attraction.
The soulmate, however, must be allowed to visit your soul or you travel to visit another to drink from the mutual cup of spiritual/soul bonding for awhile.
This may involve sex or not. What the wise one realizes is that this too must be allowed to flow on and change. That soulmates touch each other souls, they do not own each other. If you need to "own" each other get married. No, truly, for the purposes of children and other incidental management, get married.
But understand, you cannot have both soulmate/spouse at the same time. If you marry your soulmate and have children, well then your soulmate becomes your spouse doesn't he/she? Doesn't that change the nature of the relationship like immejiately?
Soulmate issues should be discussed prior to marriage, with the understanding that the nature of the future possible need to connect with the soul of another may present itself. There must be an agreement to stay in the current relationship at all costs as most likely children are involved. However, do not place the burden of the replenishment of the soul from the fresh new waters of the spring, upon the marriage.
I know the lure is powerful, and it feels like forever; ,but we KNOW, it is a visitation from heights of glory; and the key word here is a "visitation".
We get in trouble when we think that it is more than that, and we want to cage that wild turkey, and when we do, well, then we kill the spirit thereof, and then what have we?, the dilemma of the current day system of marriage and divorce.
On and On Lizanne
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Post by lizanne333 on Mar 31, 2005 9:14:55 GMT -5
Oh and I forgot to add an old adage of my own:
I have many husbands, but I only sleep with one.
(Two, three, four, etc., just kidding)
Lizanne(currently free of it all and glad I am for now)
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Post by Grave on Mar 31, 2005 9:28:00 GMT -5
Therefore soulmate is what one wants it to be.
Every person in our life is because we draw them near
Grave(Just Imagine it)
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Post by lizanne333 on Mar 31, 2005 9:42:11 GMT -5
not necessarily, Grave
It is a gift that descends from on high.
It is what it is for as long as it is.
But by its very nature it is transient.
At least at this point in time according to where man is in his current evolution, both spiritually and physically.
To try to make it whatever you want, changes it. To try to fit it into current understandings of current relationships, destroys it.
I have a little puppy, full of the vigor of innocent life.
I have found that if I attempt to hold onto that puppy the puppy struggles to be free.
If I allow the puppy free, it, and of its' own accord comes to me when it is ready.
I cannot control the will or the love of that puppy.
But I can certainly enjoy the love he gives me when he chooses to re-connect to me and cover my face with his tongue.
Even then, I know that this too must end, until I set him free, to once again return to me.
Lizanne
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